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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 13:01:54
Subject: 3K Devolved Vampire list
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Dusty Skeleton
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I'm having a big fluff game with my brother soon and i'd like my list to be fun but still good. We get quite compitive and insult each others armies and i'd like to be right when I say the counts will crush the ratmen
Ghoul king – terrorgheist, talisman of preservation, giant blade, aura of dark majesty, master strike, red fury, dread knight – 670
Master necromancer – level 4, black periapt, talisman of endurance, lore of vampires – 295
Necromancer – dispel scroll, lore of death – 90
Vampire – aura of dark majesty, fear incarnate, the screaming banner, heavy armour, lore of vampires - 204
30x Crypt ghouls – 300
30x Crypt ghouls – 300
6x Crypt horrors – 228
6x Crypt horrors – 228
3x Vargheists – 138
3x Vargheists – 138
Varghulf – 175
Terrorgheist – 225
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/01/16 13:05:29
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 13:25:56
Subject: 3K Devolved Vampire list
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Camouflaged Zero
Where the sun crosses the field of blood.
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Two things I spot directly: Master Strike isn't very good, you only have 1/6 to get it to work, assuming you hit. His red fury and high power will deal with those monsters better.
Also, you have exceeded the 25% limit on Lords.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 16:48:00
Subject: Re:3K Devolved Vampire list
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Dusty Skeleton
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Right heres the edited version, getting rid of master strike makes sense and i was aiming for the ghoul king to be a monster hunter. so cornerfag what do you think of the rest of the list
Ghoul king – terrorgheist, talisman of preservation, giant blade, aura of dark majesty, red fury, dread knight – 655
Necromancer - staff of damnation, level 2, lore of vampires - 140
Necromancer – dispel scroll, lore of death, level 2 – 125
Vampire – aura of dark majesty, fear incarnate, the screaming banner, heavy armour, lore of vampires - 204
30x Crypt ghouls – 300
30x Crypt ghouls – 300
6x Crypt horrors – 228
6x Crypt horrors – 228
3x Vargheists – 138
3x Vargheists – 138
Varghulf – 175
Terrorgheist – 225
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The little ork is king of the grechin but a slave to the big orks
40K: 3k/ 3k/ 2k/ 1k
Fantasy: VC 2k/ 1500pt/WoC WIP/ LM 1500pt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 17:07:07
Subject: 3K Devolved Vampire list
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Camouflaged Zero
Where the sun crosses the field of blood.
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Seems very solid. As you probably know, the Ghoul King on Gheist is slightly vulnerable to cannons...
The only thing I'm reacting on is, how is your deployment plan?
Varghulf and unmounted Gheist take one flank each, I assume... But where does your Lord go? Middle ground?
And what irks me the most is that your Necromancers are unprotected. If you place them with the Ghouls (which is the only current choice), they are going to get into CC as they're standing in the first rank, probably getting killed.
And if you don't place them with the ghouls, they are going to get shot at and easily killed.
I would suggest a bunker, be it skeleton, ghoul or zombie bunker.
Personally I would vote for a Zombie bunker because Ghouls would be too expensive and skeletons kind of break the theme (plus the Zombie-unit will grow everytime a Necromancer casts IoN, which means that if it is unengaged, it might turn into something dangerous, and if your opponent shoot at it he'll most likely be able to stop it from growing, but not killing it).
Other than that it looks good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 18:37:35
Subject: Re:3K Devolved Vampire list
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Dusty Skeleton
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Ghoul king – terrorgheist, talisman of preservation, giant blade, aura of dark majesty, red fury, dread knight – 655
Will go between the ghouls.
Necromancer - staff of damnation, level 2, lore of vampires - 140
Necromancer – dispel scroll, lore of death, level 2 – 125
both will go in the zombie bunker.
Vampire – aura of dark majesty, fear incarnate, the screaming banner, heavy armour, lore of vampires - 204
will go in one of the ghoul units.
20x zombies - 60
I'm not to sure about the size of the unit, would making them 30 increase thier survivability? Will go behind the king nears the ghouls.
30x Crypt ghouls – 300
30x Crypt ghouls – 300
In the middle.
6x Crypt horrors – 228
6x Crypt horrors – 228
Don't really know where to put these maybe on the flanks.
3x Vargheists – 138
Infront of the varghulf.
3x Vargheists – 138
Infront of the terrorghiest.
Varghulf – 175
On one flank.
Terrorgheist – 225
On the other flank.
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The little ork is king of the grechin but a slave to the big orks
40K: 3k/ 3k/ 2k/ 1k
Fantasy: VC 2k/ 1500pt/WoC WIP/ LM 1500pt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 18:53:50
Subject: 3K Devolved Vampire list
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Camouflaged Zero
Where the sun crosses the field of blood.
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That sounds great! You seem to have everything covered.
The Crypt Horrors can be put wherever needed.
Also, I'd say 20 Zombies are sufficient. Since they can be increased beyond starting size naturally, one casting of IoN would grant you 8 - 9 zombies on an average.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 19:27:12
Subject: Re:3K Devolved Vampire list
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Dusty Skeleton
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Well thanks for the advice and do you reckon if devolved lists could go compitive.
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The little ork is king of the grechin but a slave to the big orks
40K: 3k/ 3k/ 2k/ 1k
Fantasy: VC 2k/ 1500pt/WoC WIP/ LM 1500pt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 19:35:36
Subject: 3K Devolved Vampire list
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Camouflaged Zero
Where the sun crosses the field of blood.
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Haha, on that I have absolutely no idea. I alway overlook the competetive scene of Warhammer.
From what I see though, every unit choice seem like a strong one, and your manouverability with Gheists, the Gulf and the other Gheists are sure to reign supreme.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/16 19:56:09
Subject: 3K Devolved Vampire list
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Dusty Skeleton
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Well thanks anyway and i'm also thinking of doing a all wight army with krell
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The little ork is king of the grechin but a slave to the big orks
40K: 3k/ 3k/ 2k/ 1k
Fantasy: VC 2k/ 1500pt/WoC WIP/ LM 1500pt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/17 07:39:06
Subject: 3K Devolved Vampire list
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Knight of the Inner Circle
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im doing a strigoi themed list so this post was very helpfull thanks, but from what i can say about a wight army, i did a drakenhoff wight army last ed...if you want skellies id stick with tomb kings mate
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/17 15:12:27
Subject: Re:3K Devolved Vampire list
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Dusty Skeleton
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lol good point, Lordjig6 do you reckon this list could compitive
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The little ork is king of the grechin but a slave to the big orks
40K: 3k/ 3k/ 2k/ 1k
Fantasy: VC 2k/ 1500pt/WoC WIP/ LM 1500pt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/17 22:24:40
Subject: 3K Devolved Vampire list
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Knight of the Inner Circle
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I hope so, i tend to find with my lists (as i stick to a strong theme) that im usually low on a certain aspect of the army style, but as long as you play effectivly your usually not too disadvantaged...however i wouldnt expect it to be trolling everone...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/18 13:03:07
Subject: 3K Devolved Vampire list
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Dusty Skeleton
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Well I don't want to troll anyone but hopefully it could become a good choice for counts
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The little ork is king of the grechin but a slave to the big orks
40K: 3k/ 3k/ 2k/ 1k
Fantasy: VC 2k/ 1500pt/WoC WIP/ LM 1500pt
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/18 13:13:45
Subject: 3K Devolved Vampire list
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Courageous Silver Helm
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I would combine the horrors since 6 are killable while 12 are not. Then smack them in the centre of your line.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/18 14:17:46
Subject: 3K Devolved Vampire list
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Knight of the Inner Circle
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i agree with the horror comment, if you want little units, vargheists
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/01/18 15:54:47
Subject: Re:3K Devolved Vampire list
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Dusty Skeleton
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I was kinder thinking of this myself but wasn't too sure. so i'll try it out and see how it goes
Ghoul king – terrorgheist, talisman of preservation, giant blade, aura of dark majesty, red fury, dread knight – 655
Necromancer - staff of damnation, level 2, lore of vampires - 140
Necromancer – dispel scroll, lore of death, level 2 – 125
Vampire – aura of dark majesty, fear incarnate, the screaming banner, heavy armour, lore of vampires - 204
30x Crypt ghouls – 300
30x Crypt ghouls – 300
12x Crypt horrors – 456
3x Vargheists – 138
3x Vargheists – 138
Varghulf – 175
Terrorgheist – 225
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The little ork is king of the grechin but a slave to the big orks
40K: 3k/ 3k/ 2k/ 1k
Fantasy: VC 2k/ 1500pt/WoC WIP/ LM 1500pt
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