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Remove the Ymgarl Genestealer entry from the Elites

In the Genestealers entry,
>A unit of Genestealers may be upgraded to Ymgarl Genestealers for an additional 6 points per model
>Still allow them to take broodlord and biomorphs
>Insert the 4th edition flesh-hooks upgrade @ 1ppm


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Yes, this means that GENESTEALERS, GENESTEALERS EVERYWHERE.

Sorry man but i love my ymgarls too much to want them changed. However i do believe GW missed an opportunity with a broodlord/patriarch type hq.

I run 8 ymgarls and 2x10 bug stealer units with BL with the option for 5 more stealers in each unit. I generally believe the bigger the better with stealers but 200ish points is my limit. In my experince so far this has always been sufficent to do what i need.

What? If you love them, you should love this change. Up to 6 units of 20 ymgarls at a 3 point discount that can take assault grenades and a broodlord, with adrenal, scything, and poison?

I'm missing something.

chrisrawr wrote:What? If you love them, you should love this change. Up to 6 units of 20 ymgarls at a 3 point discount that can take assault grenades and a broodlord, with adrenal, scything, and poison?

I'm missing something.

.... And how do you think that's not overpowered? If anything, they should go up in price because they're scoring now.

The problem with genes and ymgarls right now is that they're overpriced. The problem with nids codex in general is overpricing, besides gargoyles. There's a codex update down here, but it still has ymgarls competing with elites. Which is silly.

Except it's not silly. 21 point ymgarls with grenades is insane. Doubly so when they're troops.

Move Ymgarls to fast attack.

Great profit.

Could be decent in fast attack.

@rigeld2 play a game with it. You'll find it's just fine. Tyranids need a solid troops option anyways.

If you're looking for a Ymgarl upgrade, check out my Ymgarl Broodlord out in the proposed rules.

Yeah, I dont like this change. Ymgarls are different from regular genestealers. Being an elite choice, and having different special rules represents this well.

Also, your changes reduce the total amount of genestealers one can field to 'just' 120. Since I plan on running an entire army of just genestealers at some point, 'just' 120 seems too few hehe.

I do agree that a Genestealer Patriarch would be nice, BUT Alphas and hive tyrants can still fit into this role.