Vanilla Marines Transport FAQ Question

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**Jtaugner**

Was skimming over the Space Marine FAQ and saw this:

Q: Some Space Marine squads can take a Razorback as
a dedicated transport. A Razorback has a transport
capacity of six models. Can you still choose this as a
dedicated transport for a squad with more than six
models? (p77)
A: Yes.

Would this apply to all dedicated transports? So if I take a Land Raider Crusader with a capacity of 16, could I put a squad of 10 terminators (taking 20 slots)?

**Rythem**

I'm sure it's fine as long as you combat squad the termies.

**rigeld2**

It's not that the unit fits inside - it's that you can buy the transport whether or not the unit fits inside.

**GreyChaos**

What the FAQ is covering is that you can "purchase" a dedicated transport with a capacity that is small then the unit it is chosen for. The unit is still not able to embark upon said transport UNTIL they have lost enough models to fit inside.

Rigeld beat me :(

**Spetulhu**

As rigeld2 says... The FAQ only comfirms that yes, the marine squad can buy a transport they don't fit in. They still can't ride in it unless they Combat Squad and one squad takes the Razorback, or they manage to lose enough men that they fit.

Some older codex books don't allow this - they require the squads to be small enough for the transport to carry.

**lliadon**

GreyChaos wrote:Well a LRC is only a dedicated transport if you're playing BA (possibly SW, but I don't play them so not sure).

codex: space marine lets you take any land raider as a dedicated transport for a unit of terminators

**Ghaz**

Spetulhu wrote:Some older codex books don't allow this - they require the squads to be small enough for the transport to carry

Some newer codices as well, most notably Dark Eldar.

**GreyChaos**

Apologies Illiadon, forgot about the termies special bit. I only recalled that it was listed as a Heavy Support.

**Jtaugner**

GreyChaos wrote:Apologies Illiadon, forgot about the termies special bit. I only recalled that it was listed as a Heavy Support.

Your only allowed one LRC/LRR/LR as a dedicated transport.. Any others are a heavy support option.

Thank you for the responses.

**Lone Dragoon**

Jtaugner wrote:
GreyChaos wrote:Apologies Illiadon, forgot about the termies special bit. I only recalled that it was listed as a Heavy Support.

Your only allowed one LRC/LRR/LR as a dedicated transport.. Any others are a heavy support option.

Thank you for the responses.

Actually in C:SM you're allowed 2 LRs as a dedicated transport. So long as you take one for a Terminator Assault Squad, and one for a Terminator squad.

**Akroma06**

The main reason you are allowed to take a transport with less room in it than the squad size is for combat squads. When you split in half you can put half in the DT and the other half on foot somewhere.

DE can't do this because they can't combat squad...although that would be stupid nasty. Since they can't do that they added a line saying that you have to have a squads numbers be equal to or under the transport capacity to be able to buy the transport.

**time wizard**

Akroma06 wrote:The main reason you are allowed to take a transport with less room in it than the squad size is for combat squads. When you split in half you can put half in the DT and the other half on foot somewhere.

Actually combat squadding has little to do with it. You are allowed to take a dedicated transport with a smaller capacity than the squad because it's allowed in the codex.

You can, for example, take a razorback as a dedicated transport for a tac squad of 8 marines. They can't combat squad because there are less than 10, and they can't fit in the razorback because there are more than 6, but they can still take the dedicated transport.

Why you would do so is another question!

**Akroma06**

Yes I get that...my point was the reason behind why it was written the way it was in the C:SM and why it was written differently in C: DE.

**juraigamer**

You cannot fit units inside a transport that their unit size cannot fit in. What the FAQ did was state that you could take a transport regardless of the unit size.

**Ghaz**

Akroma06 wrote:Yes I get that...my point was the reason behind why it was written the way it was in the C:SM and why it was written differently in C: DE.

Except your reasoning doesn't work for Necrons who can also take a transport they can not fit in.

**Akroma06**

Ghaz it was your post that I was refering to. The idea is that a marine squad CAN split in half and thus fit into a razorback. That is all they were thinking at the time. I'm also getting the feeling this may be a Matt Ward/Phil Kelly difference. (Not hating just saying)

**Ghaz**

That's your opinion on why they let Space Marines take transports they could not fit in. The fact that Necrons can also take a transport that they can not fit in and can not combat squad shows that your opinion might be wrong.