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EDITED LIST FINALISED

HQ - Rune Priest - Storm Caller - living lighting - chooser of the slain. 110 pts
HQ - Rune Priest - Jotww - living lighting. 100 pts
EL - 5x Wolf Scout - Meltagun - Meltabombs. 100pts
TR - 7x Grey Hunters - Flamer - PF - Wolf Standard - Power Weapon - Mark of the Wulfen - Rhino. 170 pts
TR - 7x Grey Hunters - Flamer - PF - Wolf Standard - Power Weapon - Mark of the Wulfen - Rhino. 170 pts
TR - 5x Grey Hunters - Meltagun - TL Assualt cannon Razorback. 160 pts
TR - 5x Grey Hunters - Meltagun - TL Assualt cannon Razorback. 160 pts
TR - 5x Grey Hunters - Meltagun - TL Assualt cannon Razorback. 160 pts
FA - Land Speeder Typhoon - Heavy Bolter. 90 pts
FA - Land Speeder Typhoon - Heavy Bolter. 90 pts
FA - Land Speeder - Multimelta - Heavy Flamer. 70 pts
HS - 5x Long Fangs - 4x Missile Launchers - TL Lascannon Razorback. 190pts
HS - 5x Long Fangs - 4x Missile Launchers - TL Lascannon Razorback. 190pts
HS - 5x Long Fangs - 4x Missile Launchers - TL Lascannon Razorback. 190pts




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HQ - Rune Priest - Jotww - living lighting - wolf tail talisman. 105 pts
HQ - Rune Priest - Jotww - living lighting. 100 pts
EL - 3x Wolf Guard - 2x power fist - 2x Combi Flamer - TL Lascannon Razorback. 179 pts
TR - 7x Grey Hunters - Meltagun - Wolf Standard - Power Weapon - Mark of the Wulfen - Rhino. 185 pts
TR - 7x Grey Hunters - Meltagun - Wolf Standard - Power Weapon - Mark of the Wulfen - Rhino. 185pts
TR - 5x Grey Hunters - Melta - TL Assualt cannon Razorback. 155 pts
TR - 5x Grey Hunters - Melta - TL Assualt cannon Razorback. 155 pts
TR - 5x Grey Hunters - Melta - TL Assualt cannon Razorback. 155 pts
FA - Land Speeder - Multimelta - Heavy Flamer. 70 pts
FA - Land Speeder - Multimelta - Heavy Flamer. 70 pts
FA - Land Speeder - Multimelta - Heavy Flamer. 70 pts
HS - 5x Long Fangs - 4x Missile Launchers - TL Lascannon Razorback. 190pts
HS - 5x Long Fangs - 4x Missile Launchers - TL Lascannon Razorback. 190pts
HS - 5x Long Fangs - 4x Missile Launchers - TL Lascannon Razorback. 190pts

This seems good, but there is one problem in your list : HQ characters cannot select the same wargear option, psychic powers and saga. Thus, your 2 rune priest cannot share both Living Lighting and JotWW. Except that, your army list seems really good. Keep up the good work.

HQ - Rune Priest - Storm caller - living lighting - wolf tail talisman. 105 pts
HQ - Rune Priest - Jotww - living lighting. 100 pts

Can I have this?


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HQ - Master Rune Priest - Storm Caller - living lighting - wolf tail talisman. 155 pts
HQ - Rune Priest - Jotww - living lighting. 100 pts
EL - 3x Wolf Guard - 2x power fist - TL Lascannon Razorback. 169 pts
TR - 6x Grey Hunters - Meltagun - Wolf Standard - Power Weapon - Mark of the Wulfen - Rhino. 170 pts
TR - 6x Grey Hunters - Meltagun - Wolf Standard - Power Weapon - Mark of the Wulfen - Rhino. 170 pts
TR - 5x Grey Hunters - Melta - TL Assualt cannon Razorback. 155 pts
TR - 5x Grey Hunters - Flamer - TL Assualt cannon Razorback. 150 pts
TR - 5x Grey Hunters - Flamer - TL Assualt cannon Razorback. 150 pts
FA - Land Speeder - Multimelta - Heavy Flamer. 70 pts
FA - Land Speeder - Multimelta - Heavy Flamer. 70 pts
FA - Land Speeder - Multimelta - Heavy Flamer. 70 pts
HS - 5x Long Fangs - 4x Missile Launchers - TL Lascannon Razorback. 190pts
HS - 5x Long Fangs - 4x Missile Launchers - TL Lascannon Razorback. 190pts
HS - 5x Long Fangs - 4x Missile Launchers - TL Lascannon Razorback. 190pts

Marthike wrote:

HQ - Rune Priest - Storm caller - living lighting - wolf tail talisman. 105 pts
HQ - Rune Priest - Jotww - living lighting. 100 pts

Can I have this?

I'm afraid not. However, what would be a good combo would be :

Rune Priest : Storm Caller, Living Lightning, Wolf Tail Talisman

Rune Priest : JotWW, Tempest Wrath

The idea here is to make your Rune Priests unapprochable by the enemy.

ok I guess that it is then because jotWW is so Useful and living lightning is also very good.

I guess I will just use what you suggested.

Khornate25 wrote:

Marthike wrote:

HQ - Rune Priest - Storm caller - living lighting - wolf tail talisman. 105 pts
HQ - Rune Priest - Jotww - living lighting. 100 pts

Can I have this?

I'm afraid not. However, what would be a good combo would be :

Rune Priest : Storm Caller, Living Lightning, Wolf Tail Talisman

Rune Priest : JotWW, Tempest Wrath

The idea here is to make your Rune Priests unapprochable by the enemy.

Actually, you can. In fact, you could have 4 rune priest all with living lightning as long as the second psychic power was different on each. And of course they would all need different wargear.

they cant have the two powers but you could have one with living lightning and jaws and one with lightning and hurricane.

OK right, in my other post of my original topic what i read was that they can use 1 of the same but the second need to be different.

So I am gonna go with:

HQ - Master Rune Priest - Storm caller - living lighting - wolf tail talisman. 155 pts
HQ - Rune Priest - Jotww - living lighting. 100 pts

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Okay guys.

Had a game with GK purifers and I find i don't have enough anti infantry power in this list. So I edited this list a bit.

HQ - Rune Priest - Storm Caller - living lighting - wolf tail talisman. 105 pts
HQ - Rune Priest - Jotww - living lighting. 100 pts
EL - Dreadnought - Plasma cannon. 115 pts
EL - Dreadnought - Plasma cannon. 115 pts
EL - 2x Wolf Guard - 2x PF. 76 pts
TR - 6x Grey Hunters - Meltagun - Wolf Standard - Power Weapon - Mark of the Wulfen - Rhino. 170 pts
TR - 6x Grey Hunters - Meltagun - Wolf Standard - Power Weapon - Mark of the Wulfen - Rhino. 170 pts
TR - 5x Grey Hunters - Meltagun - TL Lascannon Razorback. 155 pts
TR - 5x Grey Hunters - Flamer - TL Lascannon Razorback. 150 pts
FA - Land Speeder Typhoon - Heavy Bolter. 90 pts
FA - Land Speeder Typhoon - Heavy Bolter. 90 pts
FA - Land Speeder Typhoon - Heavy Bolter. 90 pts
HS - 5x Long Fangs - 4x Missile Launchers - TL Lascannon Razorback. 190pts
HS - 5x Long Fangs - 4x Missile Launchers - TL Lascannon Razorback. 190pts
HS - 5x Long Fangs - 4x Missile Launchers - TL Lascannon Razorback. 190pts

So what do you guys think?
It has 1 less troop and 2 less razorback but I have 2 extra dreadnought and more fire power from the typhoon. I found the speeders racing ahead is just a waste of their points.

The current list I have more fire power than before and counter attack abilities from the dreads. Also I found the assualt cannon don't seem to do much.

Your original list had plenty of anti-infantry. Probably you ran into issues because you are taking small units of Grey Hunters instead of larger units? Space Wolves are a midfield army. They excel at close range fire fights. You primary anti-infantry are your Grey Hunters with their Bolters.

All I would do to your original list is find ways to fill out your squads and take a Wolf Guard for any in Rhinos, and take 1 or 2 more in Rhinos instead of Razorbacks.

Also, I'd recommend a Chooser of the Slain to differentiate your Rune Priests. Denying Infiltration capabilities to the enemy and the BS5 is excellent.

And speaking of infiltrators, inding a way to sneak in at least one unit of Wolf Scouts would also be helpful. They are wonderful anti-tank and disruption units. Usually you end up having them OBEHL but sometimes infiltrating them is better, especially since they get a scout move on top of that!

If it were me I'd prefer something like this:



1998 points. You lose one Grey Hunter pack but your remaining ones are going to last longer outside of their transports. It also helps to have redundancy. Your enemy will go for the Rhinos your Rune Priests are in most likely, so you may as well have another one they can hop into.

The Wolf Guard pack is a bit larger, each unit of Grey Hunters gets one (I'd take Combi-Melta over Combi-Flamer if it were me) and both units of Scouts as well. Speaking of Scouts, I normally take the Mark of the Wulfen on the guy carrying the Meltagun so you don't lose any close combat attacks and have a better chance of keeping the Meltagun alive from enemy shooting.

This list has plenty of antii-tank capabilities and plenty of anti-infantry. What will hurt you, as it always hurts Space Marine armies, are if your units get into close combat with an enemy that has a higher initiative. Since you are taking Rune Priests you only are I4. So Blood Angels with their Furious Charge and Grey Knights with Halberds you want to try to avoid (e.g. charge the Blood Angels, don't get charged by them, and stay out of hand to hand with the Grey Knights as long as possible).


Also, your previous list is fairly strong, just needs a bit of strengthening. I wouldn't scrap it for the list I showed above necessarily. Your self assessment i think is suspect since you brought as much anti-infantry as the Space Wolves have available. I'd suggest something else is to blame than lack of anti-infantry...

Had another game with purifers.

Purifers won 17:12 KP

I feel when My razorbacks die and the purifers reach my long fang in firing range, My army start to fall apart. Psycannons blast my tanks and long fangs alike.

I don't feel too bad in this game since both of us had some rotten luck, one of my speeders took 16 psycannon and 4 autocannon shots and then it finally died.

My long fangs lasted till turn 4 where most of them got killed by psycannons.

Only 1 troop died but only a rhino and a razorback with no gun survived, the GK had 1 immoblie rhino and 7 guys inside and 1 dread and 1 ven dread left.

I think I had some rotten luck but also amazing luck during the game. First turn I blew up 2 rhinos and immblised 1 and a dreadnought died.

2 Speeder died turn 1.

Turn 2 when the GK moved up and poped smoke I suffered and did nothing but immobilies all of them. 2-3 razorbacks got killed, and I killed 1 GK squad and badly hurt the other.

Turn 3 Gk fire killed 3 guys from each of my long fang and 2 razorback died. Killed crowe and another purifer squad but could not damage the rhinos keep getting 1,2,3 results, but by now My anti tank is mostly gone.

Turn 4, all long fang dies so does 1 razorback and the final speeder. Finally I kill 2 of the rhinos and shooting kills 1 squad of purifers.

Turn 5 Purfiers Kill all my razorback, Kills a GH squad in assualt and 1 rhino with my rune priest dies. I kill another purifer squad and the other rhino.




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HQ - Rune Priest - Storm Caller - living lighting - chooser of the slain. 110 pts
HQ - Rune Priest - Jotww - living lighting. 100 pts
EL - 3x Wolf Guard - 2x power fist - 2x Combi melta- TL Lascannon Razorback. 179 pts
TR - 6x Grey Hunters - Meltagun - Wolf Standard - Power Weapon - Mark of the Wulfen - Rhino. 170 pts
TR - 6x Grey Hunters - Meltagun - Wolf Standard - Power Weapon - Mark of the Wulfen - Rhino. 170 pts
TR - 5x Grey Hunters - Flamer - TL Assualt cannon Razorback. 150 pts
TR - 5x Grey Hunters - Flamer - TL Assualt cannon Razorback. 150 pts
TR - 5x Grey Hunters - Flamer - TL Assualt cannon Razorback. 150 pts
FA - Land Speeder Typhoon - Heavy Bolter. 90 pts
FA - Land Speeder Typhoon - Heavy Bolter. 90 pts
FA - Land Speeder - Multimelta - Heavy Flamer. 70 pts
HS - 5x Long Fangs - 4x Missile Launchers - TL Lascannon Razorback. 190pts
HS - 5x Long Fangs - 4x Missile Launchers - TL Lascannon Razorback. 190pts
HS - 5x Long Fangs - 4x Missile Launchers - TL Lascannon Razorback. 190pts

1999 Points, I think this is what I am gonna go with. This has plenty anti tank and anti Infantry. I also Have a few meltas to deal with av 14 If they come too close.

Rest is pretty simple, stand and shoot and counter assualt with 2 of my units while the rest hold objectives or stuff.

Marthike wrote:EDITED LIST FINALISED

HQ - Rune Priest - Storm Caller - living lighting - chooser of the slain. 110 pts
HQ - Rune Priest - Jotww - living lighting. 100 pts
EL - 5x Wolf Scout - Meltagun - Meltabombs. 100pts
TR - 7x Grey Hunters - Flamer - PF - Wolf Standard - Power Weapon - Mark of the Wulfen - Rhino. 170 pts
TR - 7x Grey Hunters - Flamer - PF - Wolf Standard - Power Weapon - Mark of the Wulfen - Rhino. 170 pts
TR - 5x Grey Hunters - Meltagun - TL Assualt cannon Razorback. 160 pts
TR - 5x Grey Hunters - Meltagun - TL Assualt cannon Razorback. 160 pts
TR - 5x Grey Hunters - Meltagun - TL Assualt cannon Razorback. 160 pts
FA - Land Speeder Typhoon - Heavy Bolter. 90 pts
FA - Land Speeder Typhoon - Heavy Bolter. 90 pts
FA - Land Speeder - Multimelta - Heavy Flamer. 70 pts
HS - 5x Long Fangs - 4x Missile Launchers - TL Lascannon Razorback. 190pts
HS - 5x Long Fangs - 4x Missile Launchers - TL Lascannon Razorback. 190pts
HS - 5x Long Fangs - 4x Missile Launchers - TL Lascannon Razorback. 190pts

I like it. Personally, I'd drop the power weapons on your 7-man GH units and upgrade the MM/HF speeder to another Typhoon. There's no point to just 1 HF/MM speeder. As soon as it goes for a LR, you can bet your opponent is going to take it down with all of his guns.

should I just get rid of the wolf stands because they only give me reroll once per game of rolls of 1 which is not gonna be much.

The I will Have 20 more points to get the last typhoon.

Oh, how would you recommend downgrading this to 1750,

1 less Grey hunter and typhoon

or get rid of a rune priest and grey hunter squad.