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So,. how much would people be willing to pay for something like this?




it's a chainmail dicebag that has the capacity of about maybe 2 GW Dice Cubes worth of dice (gonna borrow some store dice on weds to see how many can fit in) I'd just like to get an idea of what people would be willing to pay, this is only a prototype/practise one, any others i do will be much better quality and with a proper drawstring.

Neat concept, but I wonder how many people would want to tote around all the added weight on top of the already heavy burden of army transporting.

It's not all that heavy, weighs about as much as 3 GW pots of paint, which isn't much at all. filled with dice, it'd be only slightly heavier than 2 full GW dice cubes.

Ahhh cool. May I ask how long it took you to make?

They go for various prices on Etsy. The cheapest is about £7 going up to the over-priced £50. £15 an reasonable average price.

I have one myself, but it was a gift so not sure how much mine cost

Nice, should give my dice a 5+ invulnerable save?

approx 14-20 hours all told, i didn't honestly keep track, but this was my first sojourn with chainmail at all, I'll be much quicker the more i do it, plus I've worked out which bits were the major time killers, and thankfully i can do those in any down time, if i spend a day or two makingthe bits i need beforehand, should shave it in half at least, maybe down to even 5 hours per bag if i have the materials prepped and ready.

Arm.chair.general wrote:Nice, should give my dice a 5+ invulnerable save?

I can't guarantee that, the dice gods are always fickle.

Ugavine wrote:They go for various prices on Etsy. The cheapest is about £7 going up to the over-priced £50. £15 an reasonable average price.

I have one myself, but it was a gift so not sure how much mine cost

The rings i use are a lot smaller than those on the ones on Etsy most of the time, it equals longer to make, and more materials costs, but I was thinking about £18 myself.

Though the materials themselves are quite cheap, it is pretty labour intensive.

There's between 700 and 1000 rings in this, all of which have to be opened, or close and put together, so yeah.

That price seems fair to the consumer, but I think you may sell yourself short with all the time and material costs.

Well, its sell myself short or sell nothing at all, working it out, if i produce a bag every 5 hours, I'm at half UK minimum wage, to be at minimum wage and assuming i get abag done every 5 hours, it'd end up being £30.50 approx, not including minimum wage, while not ideal, £18-25 at the very most is reasonable enough, bit of money for myself (considering it's a hobby) and not too much for the consumer.

Right on.

What material is it made of?

Been a long time since I did any serious maille, but I did do a few of these in bright aluminium, bronze, steel and even a sterling silver one.
Used to get £15-£20 for the base metal stuff, probably still have the silver one hiding somewhere.

This one is silver plated, either steel or aluminium, I honestly couldn't say, think its steel, but I' getting some bigger steel ones which will be zinc plated.

Ebay it and see what it goes for?

I'd probably use Etsy over Ebay, don't like Ebays policies when it comes to buyer vs shipper.

£18 is a decent price IMO.

Hand crafts is a very difficult market to make any money from. I know because my fiancee has been into making crafts for many years and in the end had to give it up for a job in retail. She just could not produce enough items at a price people would pay and sell enough to make a living. I do wish you all the best though, quality hand-crafted goods need support over the mass produced tat.

In all honesty I would rather some form of chainmail armour

Its more a hobby and making a little side money, than making a living off

winnertakesall wrote:In all honesty I would rather some form of chainmail armour

Sure, as long as you have a few hundred quid to spare and few months to wait!

Later in my chainmail career, I may progress to chainmail armour, but for now, dice bags are enough of a practise.

You have a go at a coif? I reckon you could sell more of those than a dice bag.

http://www.thehistorybunker.co.uk/acatalog/coif.jpg

I have been thinking of starting, and would you mind shooting me a pm of what you use and how you do it? That would be greatly appreciated, and I would love you forever.

Coifs are a lot more labour intensive, needinga lot more of the amount of rings that a pouch does, plus a lot more time as well.

I'm sorry to possibly make you a very very sad panda.... there are chainmail dice bags for sail in the USA from medival merchanisers. They retail for about 5-10 bucks and are pretty sturdy. They sell them in the speciality shops that cater to the renaissance fair people and LARP players.

Given that I'm not in the US and due to shipping costs am not likely to be shipping to the US, ti doesn't make me a sad panda, it doesn't really affect me at all.

RayvenQ wrote:Coifs are a lot more labour intensive, needinga lot more of the amount of rings that a pouch does, plus a lot more time as well.

This ^

My coif has over 5,000 rings and was a *@~#* to make it fit properly (having said that, my hauberk has well over 30,000).

I keep thinking every winter I need to add chausses and every year I get put off by memories of how long all the other stuff took to make

Chimera_Calvin wrote:

RayvenQ wrote:Coifs are a lot more labour intensive, needinga lot more of the amount of rings that a pouch does, plus a lot more time as well.

This ^

My coif has over 5,000 rings and was a *@~#* to make it fit properly (having said that, my hauberk has well over 30,000).

I keep thinking every winter I need to add chausses and every year I get put off by memories of how long all the other stuff took to make

A look at a Hauberk, working out, it'd cost roughly £90 in materials alone, and upwards of 60 hours or more to make, even at half minimum wage that'd be about £270, which would be a pretty difficult level to sell.

I sent you a little pm asking how you do it. Maybe keyrings would be another thing you could do?

well its euopean 4in1 pattern in 20 gage mild steel it should take about 3-4 hrs a sq foot to make {you only open half the links } soo if your going by min wage then you should be chargeing £20-£25 but will people pay that ? ....i wouldnt think so maybe £10-12 .

so unless you realy enjoy makeing mail or you want to work out your wrists { then i would recomend euopean 6in1 in 10 gage hardened steel :] thats what my arming jack had on it could do a hr a day then couldnt feel my hands anymore}

then your not gona be makeing a profit :]

I used to make a pretty wide variety of maille bags to sell through the FLGS on consignment for around $25 USD. I used aluminum (natural or anodized) or stainless steel and the suckers would sell like hotcakes. They don't need to be that big either and I'd typically use 16-20g 1/4" rings.

I had to stop because the dust and dirt exacerbated health issues with my eyes, but I'd love to keep mailling if it weren't such a problem for me. I'd rather not wear gloves and goggles, though.

If you're interested, I have a few pounds of 18g 3/16" black anodized aluminum rings that makes a beautiful 4-in-1 and 6-in-1 and with 1/4" rings can be used to make dragonscale. If you're interested, I'd be willing to sell/trade them to you in your favor. The wife has been complaining about them for a few years now...

Dust and dirt for what? cutting your own rings? If so, and if you're still able to weave why not by precut rings from The Ring Lord? Saves the hassle of winding and cutting your own rings, all you have to do is open and close them), but of an additional cost, but they have a HUGE variety thats absoloutely stunning!

Thanks for the offer, but I fear the shipping costs would make it unfeasable (the main reason why, sadly, I'm unable to utilise the Ring Lords fantastic array and selection of rings, it's just too costly.

I was thinking about maybe approaching my FLGS and seeing if they'd take some bags on consignment, but, it's an hour away and I've honestly only been in there once, but its the closest indie game store to me, but I'm unsure about how to ask without feeling cheeky.

when you open and close stainless or anodized links they shed dust and powder from the surface finnish. hence why you would end up covered in brown dust , and dont even get me started on vinager stripping and sheep skin buffing ! :[

CURNOW wrote:when you open and close stainless or anodized links they shed dust and powder from the surface finnish. hence why you would end up covered in brown dust , and dont even get me started on vinager stripping and sheep skin buffing ! :[

This. My rings come from TRL, but they rings are incredibly dirty and even washing them repeatedly prior to and during assembly doesn't remove all the grime, dust, and metal particulate. Now that your hands are covered in it after working the rings for an hour or so, rub your eyelid where it's getting itchy. Trust me, it's not fun.

I've found that assembled items like bags, coifs, and hauberks are easily cleaned in an automatic dishwasher.

As far as the costs go, I'm willing to sell at a significant (say 30%) discount or trade for 40k items in your favor. Also, shipping's not too bad if you're only paying "at cost". Up to four pounds in a flat rate package is $16.95 USD. Twenty pounds is significantly more, however, coming in at $47.95. TRL charges significantly more.

Oh, for all us brit people, and europeans too, theres www.thequeenring.com it has a nice large range, albeit not as big as The Ring Lord.

In the netherlands but should be cheaper to order from than the US.

Got my first order for one today, from a friend in the netherlands, except, rather than pay cash, he just bought me the rings I'm going to use and spent the equivilant of what i would have charged him on them, good deal for both of us.