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So I am trying to formulate a new list for 500pt games, and this is what I have come up with thus far.

Preliminary Information:

48" x 48" Table

Light Cover

Local meta is mostly MEQ

List:

Primaris Psyker

Vet Squad
3x Plasma Gun
(Psyker Attached)

Vet Squad
3x Plasma Gun
Autocannon Team

Leman Russ Battle Tank
Plasma Cannon Sponsons
Hull Heavy Bolter



Alt List:

Primaris Psyker

Vet Squad
Plasma Pistol
3x Plasma Gun

Vet Squad
Plasma Pistol
3x Plasma Gun
Autocannon

LRBT
Heavy Bolter Sponsons


C&C?

A Leman Russ in a 500 point game...I've done the same thing. Very brutal. Your list is definately good for taking out MEQ.

I think at 500 points you've really got to bring at least two Lemans.

For balance, you understand...

I see nothing wrong with bringing two of them.

Two are very possible...

CCS - 60
2x GLs

Vet - 70

Vet - 70

LRBT - 150pts

LRBT - 150pts

500pts

Though I think you have the better idea, though I would totally run a CCS over the Primus.

CCS - 105pts
3x Plasma guns, Melta gun

Vets - 115pts
3x Plasma guns

Vets - 115pts
3x Plasma guns

LRBT Demolisher - 165pts

500pts

The CCS would be better than a Primus. They can do more damage to MEQ with all those plasma guns.

Idk, I feel like minimizing units seems favorable. I used to run a 4 PG CCS and it would get wiped off the board so fast. With the primaris in a vet squad it has 10 wounds to buffer it


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and 2d6 AP6 24" range psychic attack is pretty wild on a 48" board.

Well, till they get in close combat with you... then he can be singled out just fine.

The important thing to remember about the Psyker is that your making Perils tests all the time, so he /could/ kill himself. And yeah, 2d6 Str 6 AP 5 is great and all, but that AP 5 is kind of a killer. Power Armor doesn't get a save against Plasma (or melta).

If this 500pt game has no special rules (like in Combat Patrol), I think the CCS will be fine. And if they do die, so what? That means they are not firing on the Vets then... guys are gonna die one way or another, and a 3rd source of fire power vs only 2 (infantry-wise) means more shots and your opponet has to kill 3 squads, not 2.

Besides, that Demolisher starting out near the middle of the board should also be making your opponets poo themselves trying to figure out how to kill it.

BlkTom wrote:Two are very possible...

CCS - 105pts
3x Plasma guns, Melta gun

Vets - 115pts
3x Plasma guns

Vets - 115pts
3x Plasma guns

LRBT Demolisher - 165pts

500pts

I think I will run this list, but must ask thoughts on swapping out the CCS melta for a plasma pistol

I think I will run this list, but must ask thoughts on swapping out the CCS melta for a plasma pistol

The reason why I wouldn't is so I don't get a 'Gets Hot' result and frag my XO. I would take advantage of the fact he can issue Orders to the CCS, as well as to the Vets, so keeping him alive as long as possible means he can be that much more effective. Also... now you have a melta gun incase you run against another LRBT or something.

The Orders you want to look long and hard at are (in no real order) 'Get Back into the fight!', 'First Rank Fire, Second Rank Fire!' for your Vet's Lasgunners, and maybe 'Move! Move! Move!'. If your opponent throws up a MC or has a vehicle, consider 'Bring it Down!'. If they hide in the little bit of cover that is on the table, use 'Fire on my Target!'. Read the rules concerning how to issue Orders and that you can only issue one Order to a unit, even if you fail to get the Order through. Also know you can roll well on the Ld roll and issue a extra Order! I will also note the CCS can issue Orders to itself.