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Hey, how's it going? Over the last few months my mates and I have tried to solve many rule conundrums, effectively increasing our game time exponentially. Mostly we come to conclusions, but some times we can't. I write all of these down so that someday we can have them answered, and until they are we have the house conclusion! I recently realized ALL of the question that had not been solved had involved a storm raven, at least it had inspired the question. Search fu has not really returned what I need.

I figured I'd throw them out to my favorite Greek chorus, you! These are our questions for 40K: 

What part of a vehicle on a large oval flying base has to remain within a deployment zone when it is deployed? 

After a psychic power is successfully activated while inside a transport, one that is measured from the hull of said transport, such as The Shrouding or Null Zone or Sanctuary, and then the vehicle is destroyed before the powers effects had stopped, are units that were within range of the hull but not within range of the now vehicle-less  librarian still under the effects if the successful power?

If a friendly model's base fits underneath a skimmer's hull, can it move through this space or end its movement there? (I guess this was actually brought up by an Eldar tank)

Can enemy models hide from the top turret of a storm raven by using its own hull to block line of sight?

Do multiple one-shot-only weapons count as multiple weapons for the purposes of firing from a vehicle after its moved, or for Weapon Destroyed results?

Is the distance a vehicle has traveled measured in a straight line from were it started to where it finished as stated on page 63 for all purposes or just assaults? For example, can a storm raven fly 12 inches forward, then 12 back to its original spot, using its Skies of Blood rule to drop off the unit it's transporting, but then not gain the 4+ save for going all out? Perhaps all being able to fire it's weapons too?


Thank you for your input!

1. The whole vehicle must be within the deployment zone.
2. Psychic Powers are measured from a fire point if requires LoS, or from the hull if a bubble effect.
3. Yes, but it cannot move/end its movement on the base of the vehicle.
4. Vehicles check LoS from the barrel of the weapon, so it is possible for the hull to block certain angles.
5. Yes.
6. Not sure. I'm fairly certain, that displacement only matters for assault, but I could be wrong.

To clarify some things Happy touched on:

2. "are units that were within range of the hull but not within range of the now vehicle-less librarian still under the effects if the successful power?" No, you measure the effects to the librarian once he is outside of a transport, so if some things were in range and they are now out of range, that power no longer affects your units that are now out of range of the librarian.

6. When shooting at said storm raven, that went 12 forward, and 12 backwards, it would still get its 4+ cover save for moving flat out. It would be hit automatically in assault (Unless you moved it 12 forward and 11.99999 backwards then you need a 4+

legomojo wrote:IWhat part of a vehicle on a large oval flying base has to remain within a deployment zone when it is deployed?

The whole vehicle. Base, Hull (including wings), weapons....everything. Same applies to the table edges.

After a psychic power is successfully activated while inside a transport, one that is measured from the hull of said transport, such as The Shrouding or Null Zone or Sanctuary, and then the vehicle is destroyed before the powers effects had stopped, are units that were within range of the hull but not within range of the now vehicle-less  librarian still under the effects if the successful power?

No as they are no longer within the radius of the power's range.

If a friendly model's base fits underneath a skimmer's hull, can it move through this space or end its movement there? (I guess this was actually brought up by an Eldar tank)

Yes

Can enemy models hide from the top turret of a storm raven by using its own hull to block line of sight?

Yes. TLOS still applies.

Do multiple one-shot-only weapons count as multiple weapons for the purposes of firing from a vehicle after its moved, or for Weapon Destroyed results?

Yes.

Is the distance a vehicle has traveled measured in a straight line from were it started to where it finished as stated on page 63 for all purposes or just assaults? For example, can a storm raven fly 12 inches forward, then 12 back to its original spot, using its Skies of Blood rule to drop off the unit it's transporting, but then not gain the 4+ save for going all out? Perhaps all being able to fire it's weapons too?

For the purposes of going flat-out it has moved 24" so Skies of Blood for going flat-out, the 4+ save, and weapon restrictions all apply. However for the purposes of close-combat (which uses vehicle displacement) it will have counted as being stationary so is automatically hit in cc.

My bad on question 2, I misread it. I thought you were asking how you measure from a vehicle.

No RB on me right now, but I thought you measured the actual distance the vehicle is displaced for purposes of the flat out cover save, I.E. "No flying in circles".

Lordhat wrote:No RB on me right now, but I thought you measured the actual distance the vehicle is displaced for purposes of the flat out cover save, I.E. "No flying in circles".

Your're probably thinking of turbo-boost where the distance the bike travels must be at least 18" between start and end point.

There is no such requirement for flat out.

That's it. Now that I remember, I always thought it silly that bikes have this restriction, and vehicles don't, just seemed like an oversight to me; I've always played both in the same fashion. <shrug>

Lordhat wrote:That's it. Now that I remember, I always thought it silly that bikes have this restriction, and vehicles don't, just seemed like an oversight to me; I've always played both in the same fashion. <shrug>

However the bikes are not required to move in a straight line, just that the displacement is 18 inches. They still have 6 inches of wiggle room to mess around with.