Bretonnia List C&C Requested (Updated with a more serious business army)

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**walledin**

This is my first Bret list written under 8th ed. I have most models that exist for Bret so I am willing to tryout whatever people think works for Bretonnia, just point me at another army list.

For the most part though tell me what you think of this list.

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Updated List for 2,400.

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As I don't quite have enough peasants ready to run the full 100 man block I figured I would try out a more balanced bret list in the interim. Above is the army I've been using and done fairly well with so far.

Below is the Order of battle for the army

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The general game plan is to advance the army midfield and send 2 of the knight units after enemy support units that they can break on the charge while the M@A move up and get in position to charge to allow the knights to remove enemy steadfast.

**2000 Volts**

Im trying to see what your doing here but it's not coming to me :/ The 100 M@A - Horde in a 10 x 10? I imagine your bunkering a mage in there and hoping to dominate the middle of the battlefield? That's not bad except when you have your BSB in with a unit of (I presume) fast and flanking grail knights you will fail leadership checks on Ld. 8 (the wizard is 8 right?). Unless your intent is to keep the BSB and/or general close to that Anvil it seems superfluous. And if you are keeping those two mounted horse so close to the block fo M@A then your cheating yourself out of their mobility. That makes my Empire happy.

No Dispel Scroll? that's madness. Dwellers vs your Anvil for the win.

**Orlanth**

Split the peasant bowmen into two units and deploy into two ranks. You gain little with ranks of 20 or four ranks, do not make the mistake of thinking your peasants will hold.

**Newt-Of-Death**

I like the idea of the megablock of M@A, but its interesting to hear about the dispell scroll and all that. Im learning!

With the bowmen, although its been pointed out that they could be a wasted if they were to break, you would get more chance of serious damage with that number of shots!

Finally, is it not a bit pointless in the grand scheme of things to only take 3 pegasus? Im going for a pegasus heavy army myself, mainly because I like them!

**Anvildude**

Pegasi. The plural of Pegasus is Pegasi. And not Pegasusus either.

**Son_Of _Deddog**

Anvildude wrote:Pegasi. The plural of Pegasus is Pegasi. And not Pegasusus either.

Not wanting to hijack or troll or anything, but if the plural of platypus is platipusses, why is the plural of pegasus pagasi??

**TKG Painting**

Because it is ask an english professer

**DarkStarSabre**

It's similar to what a friend is planning, however he's looking at taking some heroes with the Virtue of Empathy and keeping them with his two chunky Peasant blocks just to keep them standing firm.

**Anvildude**

Because the plural of Platypus is not Platypusses, it's also Platypi. Like the plural of Octopuss is Octopi, and the plural of Cactus is Cacti (no, not Quactar, either.

**Newt-Of-Death**

As long as everybody understands each other then it should be fine. As long as you say, pegasus, or pegusi or pegussi or pegususses, or, to use a rural Northern Ireland dialect; 'Yon peg yolks', everything will work out ok.

If someone started calling them jimminies or whambobambo's then there would be a problem!

Anyway, back to the topic; why not take 10 of them together?

**FlingitNow**

That M@A Hored will break the first time it makes combat. Your wizard will have to be in the first rank and will therefore die and then you're Ld5 and that 100 men goes poof...

No point in having 10 ranks for stubborn if you're leadership is any less than 9 (even then preferably with a re-roll available).

That is the problem with the M@A horde the pathetic basic leadership makes them worthless so you have to load them with characters in order that you've a chance of sticking around in combat. Where as if they are simply there as a bunker from shooting you don't need anything like 100 guys...

**HawaiiMatt**

If the men at arms is near the knights of the realm, that horde is LD9.

-Matt

**walledin**

The hundred man block would be at LD 10 becuase of the Lord in the KoTR unit. I've played a few games with a similar list and the KoTR end up spending most of the game near the M@As to act as a supporting unit.

**DarkStarSabre**

Yep. Right on both counts - keep the Knights as support/counter charge units and those peasant hordes are LD9 and 10.

If you want to go galloping off it doesn't hurt to give a Hero or two the Virtue of Empathy and stick them in with the peasants. It provides the unit with some 'punch' for any ethereal gribblies or large critters that turn up and gives them that high Ld.

**Warpsolution**

Agreed on that. A cheap Paladin, Sword of Might and some decent armour or something like that, would let your knights run off, if you ever wanted the option.

40 Bowmen would be better at shooting in two groups of 20, but they'll actually be Steadfast for a round against a lot of stuff like this.

...and for the record, the most currently accepted pluralization of "octopus" is "octopuses". The word "octopi" is thought to have come about when people assumed it was a Latin form, when in fact it is Scientific Latin; the Latin spelling of the Greek "octopus" is actually "octopous".
Language is fluid, though, so while some grammarians may claim to have it right one way or another, linguists will assure you that they're all equally correct, since the origin of a word need have only the most basic of influences on it.

**walledin**

I agree on the cheap Paladin. I'll move some points around and try and squeeze him in.

I tried the bowmen units as 4 groups of ten and ot worked out great by giving me 4 drops before I Put anything super important down.

On an unrrelated note, ifI had another army list I'd like a critique on should I start another thread or modify this one or what?

**FlingitNow**

I have to disagree on the cheap pally as he'll just get killed straight away. And you're back to ld5. I really don't think this army will work as you have to hold back with the knights meaning any gunline will laugh. Likewise a canny opponent will use the lack of mobility of your knights to get the charge on them. I just don't see this list causing anyone problems.

**DarkStarSabre**

Wouldn't really get killed straight away. That's what you get a few protective items for. And the definition of the word 'cheap'. Take a number of them. Put them in the units. Keep the units close to eachother. Yes, the pally might be targetted until dead in combat - then you just use the LD of the Pally in the other unit - that's the quirk of peasants.

**walledin**

Updated OP with new army list for critique.