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Haemonculi - 50

3 Wracks in Raider (FF) - 100
3 Wracks in Raider (FF) - 100
3 Wracks in Venom - 95
3 Wracks in Venom - 95
3 Wracks in Venom - 95
3 Wracks in Venom - 95

3 Ravagers (FF) - 345

Total: 975

All Venoms have an additional splinter cannon. My question is this too much MSU? I can sacrifice the 6th scoring unit for larger units of Warriors / Wracks. I just thought it would be interesting to field 9 vehicles in 1k.

Thoughts?
   
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Furious Fire Dragon




Peterborough, England.

It is kinda... 3 Wracks are there for either a dedicated transport for another unit, holding an objective or a pain token for baron, so there isn't really any punch in this army, I'd maybe go for 2 3 Man Wrack squads in venoms, 2 5 man Warrior Squads and maybe if you can fit it in a 9 man Wrack or Wych squad with agoniser.

   
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Ichor-Dripping Talos Monstrosity






TBH, I see nothing overly wrong with this list, if everything hangs back and gunboats, you've got a LOT of firepower that ignore armour and toughness.

You've got an extra 25 points to play with, I'd use this to give the Haem a hex rifle for an additional shot

   
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Sinewy Scourge






The idea behind the army is good. I just worry that if you play an army like GK, SW, or anything that spams cheap heavy weapons teams, you will be in trouble if they hit your Ravagers. It's nice to have some other anti tank.

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Cold-Blooded Saurus Warrior




The Great White North

This too me looks like to many eggs in one basket.

God knows what you do when you get DP'ed (Both ways too!)by a Vulkan List.


Oh right... Pick up your models and go home I guess..

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Fixture of Dakka





Los Angeles

nickthewise wrote:Haemonculi -
I'd add a liquifier, something he can easily use from the boat, if something got close.

nickthewise wrote:All Venoms have an additional splinter cannon. My question is this too much MSU? I can sacrifice the 6th scoring unit for larger units of Warriors / Wracks. I just thought it would be interesting to field 9 vehicles in 1k.

Thoughts?
Too much? No, the point of MSU is too many targets for the enemy to fire upon. This ought to do really well.


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Milisim wrote:This too me looks like to many eggs in one basket.
You've got 'too' and 'to' backwards, one being the preposition and the other being the adverb. And the whole purpose of MSU is the opposite of putting all the eggs into one basket. I missed it if you were being sarcastic.

Milisim wrote:God knows what you do when you get DP'ed (Both ways too!)by a Vulkan List.

Oh right... Pick up your models and go home I guess..
At 1k, two Drop Pods arrive on Turn 1, each crew breaking into combat squads, and assuming good luck, four of the DE vehicles get killed:

1. We'll assume the venoms, because you only have four sources of fire.

Next Turn, 3 Ravs, 2 raiders, and a 5th venom then get a bit of distance and can at leisure, start turning power armor into grease, because, if you're a smart DE player, those Drop Pods will have had to land in open terrain, and the marines won't have D-terrain to hide in for Cover Saves.

2. Assume that the ravs and one raider get clobbered instead. That leaves 60 poison shots next turn. 40 will hit, 20 will wound. ~6+ dead marines, and the other 14 have a long slug to now catch 6 skimmers. Turn 2, Next DP, two more combat squads, leaving two DE skimmers.

In both cases, there are 4 sets of Wracks within assault distance, not a lot of wracks, but enough to paste a combat squad.

I don't see it as quite the Rock/Paper situation as you've stated, "
Milisim wrote:God knows what you do when you get DP'ed
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Furious Fire Dragon




Peterborough, England.

Yeah, It's just the army has no real punch I guess... Thats the only thing I would be worried about

   
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Sergeant Major






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I think that at 1000 points, this list can really work out. At higher point levels, you would really need to start taking some beefier troops choices.

You have 8 splinter cannons to deal with troops, and 11 dark lances shooting at up to four targets to handle anti-tank, that sounds okay for 1k to me. I actually think that this list will be very tough to beat at 1k.

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Cold-Blooded Saurus Warrior




The Great White North

I know the vehicles being used are solid its the contents that have no punch. I run a list of DE similar in vehicle to this list at 1k... My contents when the venom or raiders go down can fight though... Blasterborn comes to mind.... wracks kind of suck without a ride... thats my biggest gripe... even regular kabs seem nastier.... though im more of a wych cult guys myself



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Furious Fire Dragon




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