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Calm Celestian






Ireland

In their new codex? Something with fire obviously. Is it fluffy? I remember reading that they get access to a certain type of lander

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Nothing in the White Dwarf about it, is there?

 
   
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Nothing about not breaking opponent's models when they die as a casualty is there? Or about being a jerk online being required but people are apparently doing the latter anyway.

And by codex I mean a real codex that they'll eventually get unless they get squatted, not 20 pages in two white dwarfs.

In shorrt, thanks for the really constructive answer.

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You should make your own rules up for the time being. A sister codex is probably a while off.

Maybe a half way between rough riders and space marine bikers?

A lance that is a power weapon and gives them a boost to their Initiative?
Bolters on the bikes can be switched for flamers?
Maybe an initial assault ability similar to the rough riders one?
A special rule against Monstrous creatures or high toughness models? Like the Lone Wolf beast slayer rules. (Dragon being slain by a knight imagery.)


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Medium of Death wrote:You should make your own rules up for the time being. A sister codex is probably a while off.

Maybe a half way between rough riders and space marine bikers?

A lance that is a power weapon and gives them a boost to their Initiative?
Bolters on the bikes can be switched for flamers?
Maybe an initial assault ability similar to the rough riders one?
A special rule against Monstrous creatures or high toughness models? Like the Lone Wolf beast slayer rules. (Dragon being slain by a knight imagery.)


EDIT: You should change the thread title to show people what you are after.


I like the rough rider/ bike idea. kinda fluffy.

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A flying jetbike made of fire using fire to fly whilst shooting fire which in turn shoots fire.


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All whilst the rider is on fire.

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Ireland

With a gun that shoots melta and fire at the same time before turning fire into more fire fire.

Yeah, the cavalry unit isn't a bad idea. I still think on a bike but the lance charge thing would be pretty cool. Just having bikes tends to not be very useful.

Not many marine players I see tend to use them. A dedicated monster fighter might be useful. Thanks

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Well, its not that its not fluffy. its just, so, oh so OTT as far as a theme goes. But, given the stuff thats came out for 5th edition in general I think GW threw that out a long while ago. Just think, is it any more outrageous than, say...

The Dreadknight
The Necron tripod and necron jetbikes
The Sanguinor
Thunderwolf cavalry
Deathstrike missile launcher
etc etc etc

So, no, it wouldn't completely surprise me if they did. Be quite funny like.
   
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I dont see sisters using a bike really. Seraphim already exist for a similiar role, and without a rough rider hunting lance the sisters are not built for hand to hand fighting.

For fast attack choices I think a sister flyer type model would round them out nicely. How do sisters get from planet to planet anyway? Imperial Navy escort?
   
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DevianID wrote:I dont see sisters using a bike really. Seraphim already exist for a similiar role, and without a rough rider hunting lance the sisters are not built for hand to hand fighting.

For fast attack choices I think a sister flyer type model would round them out nicely. How do sisters get from planet to planet anyway? Imperial Navy escort?


Technically assault marines negate the need to have biker marines. But yeah a CC lance thing would be great to seperate such a unit from seraphim.

Also, a lot of people talk about that in the background that sisters don't have their own ships therefore aren't a viable force. It should be remembered that the guard are seperate from the navy since the Horus Heresy to prevent mass desertions. Valkyries (not sure) are either an exception or are still part of the navy. Things like marauder bombers and troop transports are all part of the Imperial Navy. Only space marines get their own fleet. Don't you think they should just get valkyries/ a valkyrie varient; the name suits the army?


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I'm not a super big fan of the whole bikes in SOB armies thing. This goes back to the old topic of SMLite. It would be nice if we didn't get everything the SM's have but just 'for girls'.

That being said, I might be interested in some sort of heavy armored cavalry. Full barded SoB knights with Hunting Lances and Storm Shields? Sure. I'll buy it. And make sure they aren't on real horses, but mechanical ones like this guy:



Also, re: Valkyries, I think that a Valk variant would be great... A Valk variant that could carry SoB jump infantry? I'll take 5.

Oh and since we're wish-listing, what about a wacky attack for that Valkyrie. Let's call it the Phoenix for now.

I love the smell of burning heretics in the morning...
"Pick a point over which the Phoenix flew this turn and draw a line from there to the place where it ends its movement. Any unit under that line suffers D6 S6 AP3 hits that do not allow cover. This ability is usable once per game"
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Although the sisters in most cases are just what happen when you give a force of normal people the resources of the space marines, it would be nice to see a few more exclusive units for the sisters to take.
However, bikes don't seem to fit them too well, though I would understand if in fluff that have at least a few.
Instead of single rider bikes, a bit too akin to their space marine cousins, maybe something more like attack bike squads.
But instead of an attack bike, a two person dune buggy.
Kind of like a warthog, (driver and gunner), or a kart from mario kart double dash.
It'd give the sisters a ground based speedy unit that can actually move and fire it's big guns, as well as a multiwound model in a army that doesn't have any outside HQs.
Fluff wise, these two sister Blaze buggies were incorporated to give the sisters the necessary speed to chase down and destroy fleeing heretics.
Where in most cases, foot-sloggers can't keep up due to heavy armor and rhino's are too bulky to give proper chase, especially through crowded streets.

Probably fall into the elites section however, instead of fast attack like normal bikes, since fast attack is already dominated by seraphim and dominion.

But as for normal space marine style bikes, I dunno if it really works for them, though that make highly mobile melta would be scary.

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Calm Celestian






Ireland

Dune buggies! Wouldn't it be armour ten rather than a two would model? Even if that makes it too close to a speeder.

Sisters of battle heritic runners.

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WS3 BS4 S3 T4 (3) W2 I3 A2 LD8 SV3+

Unit type: Bike

Special rules: Scout

Equpiment: SoB persuit vehicle, stormbolter, heavy bolter

Options: include up to 2 additional runners for +40pts. Heavy bolter may be upgraded:
Heavy flamer: +5pts
Multi melta: +10

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Might be getting scout overload if they get another Scout unit.

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So the SOB uses the imperial navy to get around then? If so, a Valkyrie fitted to transport sisters with 2 single use exorcist missiles underslung in place of the HK/missile pods would work, with the 6++ armor of course befitting the sisters blessings. 120 points is about fair. No vendetta or vendetta clone!

As for the dune buggy, I like the idea of a 2 person bike unit, but I think the storm bolter is too much. Where is it mounted? If you really wanted to be different, you could make a 3 person bike model for the dune buggy, driver, storm bolter, and top gunner. Makes it different from the Attack bike too.
   
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Normally a bike has a TL bolter, instead of a storm bolter, but bikes are relentless.
So a storm bolter isn't much a difference and considering the less WS, S, T, and I, it might be fair to give them that extra shot.
Their only benefiting factor is their 6++ save and whatever faith power they might end up getting.
Other than scout, if they would end up with that, but I think the dominion really do cover scout pretty well.

To add the question, what faith power would they have?
Roll for auto regroup and re-roll ones (ala Battle sisters) to prevent the squad being scared away by a single wound (like deffkoptas and other small bike units)
Ignore dangerous terrain, making the light 4-wheeler a safer vehicle than a bike?
5++ save to represent faith+speed?
Furious charge? (not that they should ever be assaulting...)
Hit and Run?

Also, considering the sisters airforce. Since they're the army of the ecclesiarchy and not just the sisters of battle.
Imagine if they had access to the autochurch, but armed with bolters and maybe even exorcist launchers.
Like dropping a drop-pod, but instead of carrying sisters, it's just a nasty immobile turret.

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The reason I was against giving the driver a gun (maybe a pistol) was just how hard driving a dunebuggy and using a 2 handed (for sisters) stormbolter. SM bikes have the bolter included, but they also ride differently than a dunebuggy.

As for their faith, I imagine if the point of the dune buggy is to scout around looking for insurgents something for cover/terrain would be well placed. Skilled rider and enemy units must reroll successful cover saves?
   
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Ireland

An act of faith that gives skilled rider? I thought the storm bolter would be mounted like that of the double bolter the marines have.

Maybe outflank instead of scout? Just a minor upgrade to represent the far afield nature of them?

The autochurch? Like that missile launching droppod the marines have in Imperial armour apoc 2? That could be cool.

Heavy support?

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