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purplefood wrote:

moom241 wrote:

Lynata wrote:

Alexzandvar wrote:Imperial Guard HERE I COME!

Yeah ... no. Unfortunately, Imperial Guard wouldn't be playable, which has lowered my interest for this game somewhat. The closest you could get would be playing the Assassin class, which is apparently supposed to start out as a somewhat "guardsman'esque character".

http://gamingbolt.com/warhammer-40000-dark-millennium-online-info

And there goes any of my interest in this game. Why is there no love for the guard?

Because they can only represent bits of the Imperium...
There aren't any Sisters either...

As nobody has mentioned this yet...

The link on Gamingbolt is ENTIRELY speculation. THQ said so about a day after that "leak" was leaked.

None of that is true, and if parts of it end up being true, it would be coincidence.

Source... http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/10/13/thq-says-war40k-release-date-features-list-is-pure-speculation/

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Been following DMO since 2009, and they really haven't said anything about it aside from their little trailers.

If they are going to keep with their current release date, they would have to start releasing a lot of information by E3 2012.

If you want all the information that has been released, just go through this list they have on massively. I check here every couple days to see if there is anything new.

http://massively.joystiq.com/category/warhammer-40k/

If you dislike something and cannot form a logical reason for it, your opinion is irrelevant.

purplefood wrote:

Karon wrote:If you dislike something and cannot form a logical reason for it, your opinion is irrelevant.

Not really...
I can not like things for a reason i can't consciously recognise...

You can indeed, I never disputed that.

I simply said that your opinions value is close to nothing if not given with a reason of some sort.

I can say "I fething hate cats with hats"

"Why do you hate cats with said hats?"

"I don't know, I just do."

That opinion is worthless.

KingCracker wrote:

Karon wrote:

purplefood wrote:

Karon wrote:If you dislike something and cannot form a logical reason for it, your opinion is irrelevant.

Not really...
I can not like things for a reason i can't consciously recognise...

You can indeed, I never disputed that.

I simply said that your opinions value is close to nothing if not given with a reason of some sort.

I can say "I fething hate cats with hats"

"Why do you hate cats with said hats?"

"I don't know, I just do."

That opinion is worthless.

My thought is, if his opinion is useless without a reason, then your opinion is equally just as useless. Your just using your own opinion as your reason why his is invalid. Not a good way to try and argue someone bud

I'm sorry, I have no idea what this means.

My opinion is that an opinion without a reason behind it is worthless.

If you have an opinion, you should be able to justify it somehow to give it value.

I really don't understand how this is hard to understand. Its the same as if I said "I hate asians" and to justify it I said "because they are asian..."

The opinion WOULD be valid if I said "well..they got weird eyes". Its a moronic opinion, but at least I know why you hate asians now.

Lore-wise, its really not that far fetched.

Back a long long time ago, there was this campaign that had the Forces of Order and Forces of Disorder, where Orks were with Chaos and Eldar with Spess Mehreens, etc etc.

Its not the lore thing that is the problem, its balance. If they want to make the game GOOD PvP wise a la DaoC there has to be 3 factions to balance everything out.

I ask you then - how would you make 3 factions with the races? Would it be something like Eldar/Tau, Spess Mehreens/moar Spess Mehreens, Orks...Chaos?

Melissia wrote:Besides, in this field you'd need to be a game designer who has produced a successful game, and I'd bet money that you aren't.

Soladrin wrote:Are you saying your Gabe? Cause If you are, I will hunt you down and force you finish Half life 2 episode 3.

Melissia wrote:That is a slightly decent attempt at a half-assed and blatantly obvious dodge.

No, I just don't really want to derail the thread further with a silly argument that I was trucking along.

I'm not that great of a child to continue a pointless argument - I'd rather talk about DMO.

The Gaben reference came from Game Designer being mentioned, and since Melissia said "I'd bet money you aren't" as I bolded, it was just a sly face that I found in google images.

I like Space Marines.

I dislike the puritan Ultramarines. Its a distinction.

I really do hope they start giving some sort of information soon. I thought LAST years E3 was going to be the big reveal - until I heard it was planned for a Q1 2013.

Going by that timeline, if it really is going strong in development right now and barring any delays, E3 2012 sounds like the time to start releasing information and actually put up a site for the game. The little two-picture site they have right now doesn't count.

The game has so much potential because of the IP, just like Warhammer Online did. I really hope that THQ doesn't rush this game for a quick buck like EA is so notorious for doing. Warhammer Online was ruined because EA forced it to be released in tandem with WOTLK.

I'll gladly take as many delays as they need to make the game right, I just want it to last.

Soladrin wrote:Ehm, no, they have been saying E3 2013 all this time for the big reveal.

Also, nice cop out.

Show me a source saying it has always been planned for E3 2013. I've never heard anything as such.

This is the only thing I've heard about anything revolving around DMO at E3.

http://www.darkmillennium.org/2011/09/dark-millennium-online-to-be-playable-at-e3-2012/

LordofHats wrote:

Melissia wrote:There seems to be a lot of gakfethers out there spreading untrue rumors about THQ.

Also people who don't want to admit that THQ might actually be in real danger.

They are in difficult financial sorts right now, yes. People are just too quick to say they are going down.

They ARE looking for a financial partner to fund DMO currently.

I just hope for the love of Tzeentch that neither EA or Activision are involved.

Mhm. If they really do need an influx of cash, you can't get much better than releasing an MMO that a lot of people will play for years - assuming its well executed.

corpsesarefun wrote:

Karon wrote:Mhm. If they really do need an influx of cash, you can't get much better than releasing an MMO that a lot of people will play for years - assuming its well executed.

Which is why everyone is just churning out MMO's, every single one is hugely profitable and not at all risky.

Bolded the important part since it seems you missed it.

If the game has time to progress, the funding, and is not pressured by their publisher its success chance goes up exponentially with each added factor.

A large part of WAR failing was because it was rushed to be released in tandem with WOTLK by none other than EA. The incompetent developers had a part it in as well, but releasing an unfinished product is terrible when you consider the launch and the several months following is the most important time period.

$180 for one game for one year is not a lot of money if you play it quite a bit

They were talking for people who may pay on and off and not all the time an hourly plan would be more fiscally conceivable and they would be less pressured to play that game.

But yes, $15 a month is a very little amount of money if you have a job of some sort, even if you get minimum wage.

Supreme Kai wrote:If it does come out, i hope that it doesnt sink like Warhammer Online

Don't we all? EA or incompetent EA Mythic Developers aren't behind it, however, so it shouldn't be a problem.

>Assuming THQ doesn't get EA to put money into DMO to fund it.