Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

So I have these 2 lists I just made up and I can't decide between them.


First List:

Lords
Lvl4 Slaughter Master(Lore of the Great Maw(Crown of Command, Channeling Staff, Armor of Destiny, Ironfist)388 pts

Heroes
BSB (HA, Great weapon, Standard of Discipline) 160 pts
Lvl2 Butcher(Lore of Beasts(Dispell scroll, Sword of Might, Dragonbane gem) 185 pts
Lvl2 Firebelly (Hellheart, Great Weapon) 214 pts

Core
12 Bulls (Bellower, Banner, Ironfists) 404 pts
12 Bulls (Bellower, Banner, Ironfists) 404 pts
9 Ironguts (Bellower, banner, banner of eternal flame) 417 pts
20 gnoblars(trappers) 75 pts

Special
Sabretusk 21 pts
Sabretusk 21 pts
Sabretusk 21 pts
4 Mournfangs (Banner bearer, Bellower, IF, HA, Dragonhide Banner) 350 pts

Rare
Ironblaster 170 pts
Ironblaster 170 pts
3000 pts

BSB and SM go in one Bull unit, Firebelly and Butcher go in the other.


Second list:

Lords
Lvl4 Slaughter Master(Lore of the Great Maw(Crown of Command, Channeling Staff, Armor of Destiny, Ironfist)388 pts
Heroes
BSB (HA, Great weapon, Standard of Discipline) 160 pts
Lvl2 Butcher(Lore of Beasts(Dispell scroll, Sword of Might, Dragonbane gem) 185 pts
Lvl2 Butcher(Lore of Heavens(ironcurse icon) 140 pts
Lvl2 Firebelly (Hellheart, Great Weapon) 214 pts

Core
12 Bulls (Bellower, Banner, Ironfists) 404 pts
12 Bulls (Bellower, Banner, Ironfists) 404 pts
9 Ironguts (Bellower, banner, Dragonhide Banner) 457 pts

Special
Sabretusk 21 pts
Sabretusk 21 pts
Sabretusk 21 pts
Sabretusk 21 pts
Sabretusk 21 pts
Sabretusk 21 pts
4 leadbeltchers (bellower) 182 pts

Rare
Ironblaster 170 pts
Ironblaster 170 pts
3000 pts

This is basically list one where I dropped the Mournfangs and Gnoblars to pick up 3 Sabretusks, lvl2 heaven's butcher, and some Leadbeltchers. And the Ironguts took the Dragonhide banner.

It is heavy on magic so PD might be an issue, but I will have an awsome array of Buffs to choose from. Only thing I don't like is not having any Mournfangs

I have a feeling the 2nd is actually the better list, but I'm not too sure.

List A just seems to be more well rounded, and list B is too many points into magic.

Number 1

The first one looks like the best.

Really, I'm surprised. Ok, thanks everyone.

The sheer amounts of cats in the second might cause widespread panic in your list...

Persoanlly if you cut out a butcher on list B I would go with that one 6 sabertusks lolz

maybe, but I can't figure out what to do with that 140 pts. The butcher actually fit in perfectly when I was building it.


I havn't had an issue with the cats causing panic. I make sure to keep them far enough away from each other and my other units. My ogre units stay close enough to the general/BSB to have the rerolls on Ld9.

being single models, the 6" distance is considerably less then it is in other units. Sabre's rarely need to be that close to each other. They move fast enough to take their place if one dies.