New Libyan leadership takes harsh stance at UN against gays

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**Frazzled**

Good thing Libya is a member of the UN Human RIghts Council. I was getting worried they might start promoting..human rights.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/02/13/new-libyan-leadership-takes-harsh-stance-against-gays-at-un/

United Nations - WORLD
New Libyan leadership takes harsh stance at UN against gays

Published February 13, 2012

A United Nations delegate from Libya’s newly formed government told a human rights panel that gays and other groups threaten “reproduction of the human race,” drawing a stern rebuke from leaders of the international body.

The remarks, reported by Geneva-based U.N. Watch, came just months after the North African nation’s membership was restored to the U.N. Human Rights Council. The reinstatement came amid assurances that the new government that supplanted the brutal regime of Muammar Qaddafi would not brook human rights violations.

Yet the unnamed representative told a panel discussing violence based on sexual orientation that lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender, or LGBT, topics "affect religion and the continuation and reproduction of the human race.”

Council Chair Laura Dupuy Lasserre replied that "the Human Rights Council is here to defend human rights and prevent discrimination."

The Libyan outburst prompted questions by human rights activists about Libya's reinstatement on the council. The nation was one of 47 represented on the council for a term that was scheduled to end in 2013, but the full body kicked it off the council in March 2011, amid criticism of Qaddafi’s human rights record. Gays were subject to flogging and imprisonment during his regime, according to human rights advocates.

“This is our duty to all the men and women who are hoping and struggling to have their rights respected and who, today, are running the greatest risks,” General Assembly President Joseph Deiss told the body before the vote. “Their hopes must not be dashed.”

But the harsh stance against gays voiced Monday has some critics wondering if the new government ushered in by the so-called Arab Spring is any more tolerant than its predecessor.

"Today's homophobic outburst by the new Libyan government, together with the routine abuse of prisoners, underscores the serious questions we have about the new regime's commitment to improving on the dark record of its predecessor, and about its pandering to Islamists in its ranks," U.N. Watch Executive Director Hillel Neuer said.

Back in November, when the U.N. General Assembly reinstated Libya on the council, deputy U.N. envoy Ibrahim Dabbashi said "the new Libya deserves to return to the Human Rights Council to contribute with other members to the promotion of values of human rights."

"No violations of human rights will take place on Libyan territory in the future and if it happens the perpetrator will never get away with it,” he pledged.

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**Chowderhead**

No violations of human rights will take place on Libyan territory in the future and if it happens the perpetrator will never get away with it,

There are the Libyans we're talking about.

Remember what they did to Ghadaffi?

**Huffy**

Chowderhead wrote:
No violations of human rights will take place on Libyan territory in the future and if it happens the perpetrator will never get away with it,

There are the Libyans we're talking about.

Remember what they did to Ghadaffi?

and I was under the impression that they had control over 3 or 4 buildings in all of Libya

**Orlanth**

People in the west are waking up to the truth that in much of the middle east democracy and fundamentalism are one and the same.

Not everyone votes for party x or party y, but a very clear majority will vote for Allah. So those who stand for Allah on a fundamentalist ticket have a clear route to power.

**SagesStone**

Chowderhead wrote:
No violations of human rights will take place on Libyan territory in the future and if it happens the perpetrator will never get away with it,

There are the Libyans we're talking about.

Remember what they did to Ghadaffi?

Remember what they did to the doc?

**Mr Hyena**

This is disgusting. Libya should be removed from the UN human rights council immediately.

**Frazzled**

Chowderhead wrote:
No violations of human rights will take place on Libyan territory in the future and if it happens the perpetrator will never get away with it,

There are the Libyans we're talking about.

Remember what they did to Ghadaffi?

or the previous ambassador.

**Velour_Fog**

God forbid anything threatens the reproduction of the human race. There are only, what, 7 billion of us?

**MrDwhitey**

Skarwael wrote:God forbid anything threatens the reproduction of the human race. There are only, what, 7 billion of us?

My God, I didn't realise we'd fallen so low!

Quickly, step up breeding!

**d-usa**

Meet new Libya, same stand on gays as the US GOP.

**Melissia**

This is entirely without surprise. Still disappointing though.

**dogma**

Expected.

Revolution generally does not change much.

**Ouze**

Chowderhead wrote:
No violations of human rights will take place on Libyan territory in the future and if it happens the perpetrator will never get away with it,

There are the Libyans we're talking about.

Remember what they did to Doc Brown?

Fixed that for you, Chowder.

edit: Ninjaed!

**dogma**

d-usa wrote:Meet new Libya, same stand on gays as the US GOP.

Equivocation, and lame.

**SagesStone**

~~Damn if only I had thought of it first Ouze. Time to go to the past and ninja.~~

Almost.

**Ouze**

Man, what can't Australians do. Live a day in the future, get New Years Eve first, and also time travel. Great continent... or greatest continent?

**Gorskar.da.Lost**

dogma wrote:
d-usa wrote:Meet new Libya, same stand on gays as the US GOP.

Equivocation, and lame.

I think the phrase you're actually looking for is;
"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

**Kilkrazy**

Don't you know civilised Europe and the USA had a harsh stance against gays 50 years ago?

It didn't change overnight here and it will take time in Libya too.

**Monster Rain**

Boy do I wish mattyrm were here right now.

Breaking News! Islamic Fundamentalists seem to disagree somewhat with being gay.

**purplefood**

Well they are quite clearly wrong...
Plenty of people who have 'reproductive sex'...
Too many in some places...
Also they are small-minded etc etc...

**hotsauceman1**

So, By their logic priests and nuns are a threat to the human reproduction.

**Alexzandvar**

Libya's population is in the Hundreds of thousands.

I say we work on fixing gay rights in the rest of the world.

**dogma**

Alexzandvar wrote:Libya's population is in the Hundreds of thousands.

Its population is ~5.6 million, which puts it right around the middle of all countries in the world.

**rockerbikie**

Expected.

Automatically Appended Next Post:

Alexzandvar wrote:Libya's population is in the Hundreds of thousands.

I say we work on fixing gay rights in the rest of the world.

They won't listen, they will find it "offensive".

**dogma**

rockerbikie wrote:
They won't listen, they will find it "offensive".

You don't go for the adults and the teens, you go for the kids; create that subtle doubt.

Most people, once set into a belief, will not change it barring extreme circumstances.

**Lone Cat**

This sounds like 'To dethrone Bourbons only to have Jacobins rule over France' remember French revolution?

**Harriticus**

This is to gain more popular support in the Muslim/Africa (the latter especially is a place where Libya has lost some credibility). These kinds of things would be very popular there.

**d-usa**

Kilkrazy wrote:Don't you know civilised Europe and the USA had a harsh stance against gays 50 years ago?

It didn't change overnight here and it will take time in Libya too.

Have you listened to the GOP presidential candidates? Gays are still destroying the US, having a dug dealer dad in prison is better than having two dads, etc etc etc.

**Melissia**

dogma wrote:
Alexzandvar wrote:Libya's population is in the Hundreds of thousands.

Its population is ~5.6 million, which puts it right around the middle of all countries in the world.

It also has one of the fastest growing populations in the world.

edit: whoops, was thinking of liberia...

**Alexzandvar**

Melissia wrote:
dogma wrote:
Alexzandvar wrote:Libya's population is in the Hundreds of thousands.

Its population is ~5.6 million, which puts it right around the middle of all countries in the world.
It also has one of the fastest growing populations in the world.

edit: whoops, was thinking of liberia...

Damn, was probably think of another country. I digress. My point remains the same.

And yes this years GOP candidates are literally the worst. They always talk about how Reagan would do this or that, however my dad worked in the Reagan white house and he would never do any crap like what this years candidates are doing.

The poop throwing contest in Florida was pretty funny though.

I've had to edit some of this post, if we could please show a wee bit more taste when posting in future it'd be appreciated. Thanks

Reds8n