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Hello everyone, I know you don't want another paint stripping question but... I have a few unique questions. I recently recently a horribly painted and covered in superglue metal Ghazz. model. I want a strip

all of the paint and break all of the superglue bonds and get some off that is just on the surface. I don't care how long it takes or how many fumes it makes but I will be doing this outside in a shed so it

could get below freezing. So this is my question, what should I use that will do all this but is not affected by cold weather?

Thanks, Drew

* EDIT I want to use acetone, will a day or two in a mason jar take care of the glue and paint? *
* EDIT Thanks for all your help guys my models are soaking now. *

Simple Green!

If you let it soak long enough, it'll break glue bonds as well.

Most of the solvents that you'll be using are highly solute, and won't freeze unless they get to incredibly low temperatures.

HOWEVER: Simple Green WILL freeze at the same temperature as water, as stated by the product information found via google:
www.simplegreen.com/pdfs/MSDS_EN-US_CarpetCleaner.pdf

Pinesol does not have a freezing point listed, though if you use that to strip paint, you'll forever be haunted by its fragrance (as I learned the hard way).

A quick google search for "freezing point [insert product]" will net you a quick product listing which will include what the freezing point of the solution is, if the freezing point is known, though many will have n/k (not known) listed, as the product has not been tested to a point that it froze (usually meaning it won't freeze at domestically encountered temperatures).

Pft, you can bring Simple Green inside and leave it though. It's not really got any harmful odors to worry about.

does it matter if it freezes? it will thaw

This is true, but he asked for products that would not be affected by the weather.


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Skippy wrote:does it matter if it freezes? it will thaw

But it won't strip paint while it's frozen xD

i guess if its below zero the whole time. I was thinking it would just freeze at night and thaw during the day

Thanks guys I will probably just use SG in my basement since it has no harmful odors.

If it's 100% metal, with no green stuff, and you want to kill the glue, use something stronger.

It is 100% metal what should i use?

Depends on what you can get

Methyl Ethyl Ketone is apparently deadly if used for long periods or enclosed spaces, but everyone who's used it says it will strip a metal model to shiney bits in about 5 minutes.

If you are going with a 'normal' cleaner (Simple Green or Purple Power) invest in an Ultrasonic cleaner. They're only around $20, and they greatly reduce the effort and time needed to clean minis.

Bounty wrote:Depends on what you can get

Methyl Ethyl Ketone is apparently deadly if used for long periods or enclosed spaces, but everyone who's used it says it will strip a metal model to shiney bits in about 5 minutes.

If you are going with a 'normal' cleaner (Simple Green or Purple Power) invest in an Ultrasonic cleaner. They're only around $20, and they greatly reduce the effort and time needed to clean minis.

But if you're using butanone for paint stripping, I'd be more concerned with your shed exploding.

If you have a well-ventilated space, oven cleaner would work fine, I'm sure. Just make sure to wash your hands if you want to keep the skin on your fingertips xD

Rather than using MEK (yeah, it works, but damn it's nasty) just use some Lacquer Thinner.

EDIT: Forgot to mention Freezing point of -137ºF
Source:

Glass Mason jar (with lid), add mini, let sit for a little while (10 minutes, 10 hrs, whatever. It's metal. Remove plastic base beforehand). Toothbrush it, rinse it, clean and shiney metal mini.

Yep.

Acetone works great, you could put the model in a mason jar and it will break down paint and glue bonds. It won't freeze for your average cold temperatures. You will still likely need to use a tooth brush or a tooth pick to get paint out of the corners, but let it sit for a day and the paint should just slough right off. Also, it's easy to get at a hardware store and only five bucks or so for the little containers.

What do you mean by ultrasonic cleaner? Like a Phillips toothbrush?

For all metal, I always start with pure acetone. It utterly dissolves the glue and most paint. Then I rinse it and go to simple green to soften the stuff in the cracks.

Since it's used for nail polish and paint removal, regular grocery stores and hardware stores all carry it.

If a model is 100% metal, acetone (nail polish remover)is the way to go, since that's commonly available and not particularly toxic compared to some of the other alternatives. Ghaz is a big hunk of metal, but be sure that for anything else, there's no plastic that you'd want to save because acetone breaks down the model's plastic as quickly as it does paint.

go to Walmart in the automotive section. look for Super Clean buy it as its cheap.

pour some Super Clean into an old resealable food container (old tupperware works good but enough food items in the US come with thier own resealable bowls).

drop your mini in and start waiting....

i would honestly give it atleast a day or 2 of soaking for the Super Clean to break down the paint and glue.

take the model (or parts of the model it most likely fell apart while soaking) and give them a little scrub to get rid of any left over paint and glue and clean the model of cleaner.

super clean will strip tons of paint and primer. it also makes glue brittle and easy to remove.

if paint or glue remains let it soak longer.

Super Clean is biodegradable and safe to use inside as it doesnt really have fumes or make your minis stink. it is a bit harsher than Simple Green or Purple Power so pick up some throwaway latex gloves when you put your hands in it. prolonged exposure can cause small burns on the skin.

simple green works for PAINT ONLY. It will do NOTHING absolutely NOTHING for your superglue, so its going to have to be super-clean. exercise all percautions, and get a metal sieve dedicated for your minies. The last thiing you want are parts in the drain.

Thanks guys for all your advice I already have nail polish remover so I will probably use that, will a day or two in a mason jar do it for the glue and paint?

Deathklaat wrote:go to Walmart in the automotive section. look for Super Clean buy it as its cheap.
Super Clean is biodegradable and safe to use inside as it doesnt really have fumes or make your minis stink. it is a bit harsher than Simple Green or Purple Power so pick up some throwaway latex gloves when you put your hands in it. prolonged exposure can cause small burns on the skin.

Super Clean and Purple Power are the same active chemicals. The problem is both appear to have refiled their MSDS in November of last year, and the chemicals have changed. I don' know what was doing the work, but I suspect the reworked formula won't work as well.

http://www.clean-rite.com/msds/Purple%20Power%202010.pdf

Super Clean
http://hpd.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=brands&id=3011002

http://www.supercleanbrands.com/sites/default/files/SuperClean%20Degreaser%20English%20MSDS%2003-10-11.pdf

An ultra-sonic cleaner looks a lot like a DeepFryer, in that it's plastic with a reservoir to hold liquid. It then vibrates the liquid, and better models heat it as well. The end result is your liquid scrubbing your model at a molecular level. You can get them for about $20 a search for Ultrasonic cleaner here on Dakka will give better reviews and before/after pictures for you.

I want to use acetone, will a day in a mason jar take care of the glue and paint.

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Drew14 wrote:I want to use acetone, will a day in a mason jar take care of the glue and paint.

With acetone, ten minutes is more than enough to nuke all the paint. Glue may take a little longer for the acetone to permeate.

Portugal Jones wrote:

Drew14 wrote:I want to use acetone, will a day in a mason jar take care of the glue and paint.

With acetone, ten minutes is more than enough to nuke all the paint. Glue may take a little longer for the acetone to permeate.

+1. Doesn't take long. If you're using actual nail polish remover, it may take a little longer (as it's diluted acetone), but it'll still do just fine.

I would personally let it set for a day, just to let it stew a little extra for the glue, and get into the crevices and such

OK

I like to use a jar with a cap, then I carry it around with me for the afternoon, just shaking and swirling it a little every 10 minutes or so.

I use simplegreen. Has yet to fail me, and I swear it breaks down some glue bonds. I have had marines dissolve if they sit in simplegreen for a while. (Not really dissolve, but they fall apart).