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Ive been looking at the rules for the chimera and there are a few changes ide like to make.

1-The chimera gains a broadside rule for its hull lasguns
the lasguns in the chimeras hull may fire at a seperate target each but only if it lies in the flank arcs. upto 4 models may still fire from the hatch.

Ok ive updated this slightly..... i guess i wasnt thinking straight when i suggested free MMs.
The only reason ive put them here is because the Hellhound can take them so why cant the Chimera?

2-The chimera has some more weapons options:

may exchange turret gun for

an Autocannon.......10pts

a Multimelta.......15pts

may exchange hull gun for

a Multimelta.......15pts

a Plasmacannon.......20pts

3
Side armour to 11-this is a tank were talking about here.

what does the Dakka community think of this?

So...it gains not one but two FREE multimeltas?

And you can have how many very easily in a list?

Yeah. No.

The chimera is already one of the best transports in the game. I don't think it needs updates at all. Especially since these types of upgrades would make hellhounds, bane wolves, and devil dogs obsolete.

riverhawks32 wrote:The chimera is already one of the best transports in the game.

This.

If anything the chimera needs a nerf; e.g. to allow only lasguns to fire from the top.

Chimera is one of the best transport in the game, giving it two free multimeltas in a army that can already field....too many (and this is coming from a guard player) would totally break the game, especially with the current "meta" being mechanized forces it would make for a total imbalance towards the guard.

VET squad in chimera with 3 meltas, AND 2 more from the chimera ?

I would love to use that just to see the face of the other player when you field 25 metla guns in a 750pts mecha list for practicly nothing xD

But no, chimera is fine as it is.... its even very good for the ppm !

Not to mention the free autocannon. People were screaming when FW released an option for chimeras to take autocannons for 5pts; free is just insane. Hell, even at +10pts it would be a no-brainer and likely very OP.

Chimera is fine. The only thing I'd like is the autocannon turret, but that's just cause autocannons are awesome.

I just don't get how this is "updates" anything, or how people mistake "insane buffs" for "updates."

The only part of this I like is the broadside rule for its hull lasguns, this doesn't really change its power that much and makes sense.

2 things are really dumb about Chimeras that should change. First AV10 sides should be 11. Designer should be fired making a vehicle vulnerable to small arms on side armor. Second the 5 people can shoot out of the fire point which is about the same size of a Rhinos is also absurd. Should be only 2 models can fire from the fire point and then the las gun mounts can fire independently at seperate targets.

Auto cannon upgrade for the turret for 10 points would be nice and is featured in forgeworld books.

Multimelta hull isn't nearly as good on a vehicle that is not fast like Hellhounds and should cost at least 10 points.

Plasma cannon hull is just wishlisting and no vehicles have it.

Right

My take on the chimera

60 Points
BS3 F12 S11 R10
(Change: I agree - side armour should almost never be 10 on a tank, That's just stupid!)
Tank, Amphibious

Capacity: same
Firepoints: 2

Armaments: Turret-mounted weapon; multilaser standard, autocannon for 10 points. Frontmounted HB standard, exchange for hflamer for free, mm for 15.

similar to the necron Ghost Ark, 2 sets of 3 "broadside" lasguns that can be fired each at a separate target when a unit is embarked.

I would say autocannon would be OP for anything but 10+ pts.

Also, the AV11 sides does make some sense, but I get that the chimera standard is AV10 sides, look at the basilisk, medusa, etc. They all have av10 sides as is the standard chimera setup, and vehicles like the hellhound get an armor upgrade,

Multimeltas definitely no. To both hull and turret. It is supposed to be a rarer weapon as per the fluff and wouldnt make sense for every chimera to have them.

And 5 yes a lot, 2 is too few, maybe 3 or 4? And the arc of lasguns sounds good.

You guys do realize that the two big complaints are linked, right?

The reason Chimera armor is relatively weak on the sides is because it exchanges durabity for the ability to serve as fire base.