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I guess this mostly applies to Fateweaver or Daemons fighting Daemons.

-A Wizard may only ATTEMPT to cast each spell once per turn. (BRB emphasis added)
-Glean Magic: The caster may immediately cast one of the target's spells as if it were his own -- the spell is automatically cast at it's basic casting value.
-FAQ:
Q. When a Tzeentch Wizard successfully casts Glean Magic, does
the enemy have the option of dispelling the spell cast by it? (p61)
A. No.

So can you cast the same spell twice using Glean magic? To me it's not a cast attempt. You're attempting Glean, which may be dispelled, Miscast, lose concentration, etc. If you succeed, the spell you choose goes off skipping basically everything except Spell Resolution section in BRB. So if Khairos has Dwellers Bellow and casts it, and you have it and he Gleans it successfully, it immediately goes off?

(If you're fighting Daemons with Glean, you could steal their Glean and then use that to steal something else or just keep stealing Glean over and over and over. Wacky Daemons.)

Yes, you are not "casting" the enemy spell, Glean is activating it.

nosferatu1001 wrote:Yes, you are not "casting" the enemy spell, Glean is activating it.

Correct, there is no way to boost it though. It was fun pulling flames of the phoenix off with this on a horde of spearmen.

Glean Magic has to target an enemy spellcaster. So if you have Kairos and you're fighting someone with the Lore of Life and Dwellers and Kairos' other head happens to have the Lore of Life then you can cast two dwellers.

Also you can dispel Glean Magic. The FAQ prevents you from dispelling the spell cast by Glean Magic but not Glean Magic which is also a spell.

hamsterwheel wrote:Also you can dispel Glean Magic. The FAQ prevents you from dispelling the spell cast by Glean Magic but not Glean Magic which is also a spell.

Exactly. The statement precluding the "gleaned" spell from being dispelled is there just so you cannot attempt an easy dispel against the "gleaned" spell if the caster either rolls very high on the Glean Magic casting or if you failed in the dispell attempt on the original Glean Magic casting.

What more funny is gleaning glean.
Lord of change casts glean magic, targets opponents herald of tzeench and gleans his glean; using the 2nd glean to target himself and cast a 2nd bolt of change.

-Matt

You still always have to target the enemy with glean. But glean doesn't remove anything. You can literally glean glean an infinite number of times the way I see it.

0. cast Glean (success, not dispelled)
1. target enemy
2. take his spell (Glean)
3. spell goes off automatically
4. repeat 1-3 forever, profit

A single wizard can only cast Glean magic once per magic phase though so yes, you could theoretically cast Glean magic and steal Glean magic to steal Glean Magic an infinitival amount of times but what would that gain you? If you use it to cast something else, that wizard can't cast it again.

It would gain you absolutely nothing except to be funny for 15 whole seconds.

It's not being cast. No one is prevented from attempting to cast a spell after it's Gleaned. Not the target or recipient.

DukeRustfield wrote:It would gain you absolutely nothing except to be funny for 15 whole seconds.

It's not being cast. No one is prevented from attempting to cast a spell after it's Gleaned. Not the target or recipient.

If said wizard is in a blood woods (the one that does hits when a unit is targeted by a spell), that wizard, and his unit, are in for a world of hurt.

-Matt

That could have been pretty lol-ful. But the trees move each time the hits are resolved, which may get the wizard out in 1 application. If not, then yeah, it would kill anything there eventually, there wouldn't even be a point rolling. But you wouldn't make a lot of friends.

[quote=AcardiaCorrect, there is no way to boost it though.

The spell is cast at its "basic casting value."

Not to be argumentative but, where does it state that a boosted spell can't have a base casting value? Wouldn't the value required to beat for boosted spells be the base casting value?

Basic is pretty much an antonym for boosted.

Standard is the word the BRB uses for non-boosted. Which is pretty much a synonym for basic.