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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/12 12:41:55
Subject: Incoming UC Students mMay Be Asked to Declare their Sexual Orientation
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Those wacky Californians. You just have to love 'em.
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/03/09/incoming-uc-students-may-be-asked-to-declare-their-sexual-orientation/
Incoming UC Students May Be Asked To Declare Their Sexual Orientation
March 9, 2012 10:40 PM
LOS ANGELES (CBS) — The next influx of UC students may be asked to state their sexual orientation.
In January, the Academic Senate recommended that upon accepting admission offers from a University of California school students should have the option of identifying themselves as lesbian, gay, bi-sexual or transgender.
The UC Board of Admissions and Relations with Schools had mixed reactions but agreed that the question would allow them to collect important statistical information. They recommended putting the question on the SIR forms instead of college applications to protect students’ privacy.
The news made the front page of UCLA’s campus paper Daily Bruin and is stirring controversy across UC campuses.
Supporters say the declaration will help campuses better plan for the needs of LGBT students.
Queer Alliance Board member Luis Roman said he has spoken with university officials about the proposal, which he enthusiastically supports, because he believes it will bring badly needed services for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender students.
Some members of that community believe it would show that there are many more LGBT students than university officials realize.
“I think the numbers are way bigger than we really imagine or know,” Roman said.
The sexual orientation question would likely be optional. That may mean that a sizable number of students would not respond or would do so dishonestly — skewing the results, said Raja Bhattar, the director of the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Center at UCLA.
The data would be collected from incoming freshmen and transfer students.
High school senior Brian Vo, who was visiting his friend Quincy Vien on campus, said he wouldn’t mind being asked.
“I think it’s fine. They’re just collecting information to kind of cater to the population. It’s not obligatory — it’s voluntary — so it’s up to you whether you want to or not.”
None of the UCLA students who spoke with CBS2 objected to the idea of being asked about their sexual orientation — on the condition that it was optional.
Although UCLA has a reputation as a LGBT-friendly campus, Camilia Lacques warns that LGBT students have been victims of prejudice.
“You can walk around and hear gay, you can hear f—-t, you can hear awful remarks, you can [see] stares at some of my self-identified male friends that wear heels for example that get harassed everyday…so, as much support as there is, there is definitely anti-queer backlash on this campus,” the student said.
UCLA student Ernesto Valles said the sexual orientation survey might lead to special dormitory floors that would create a safe environment for LGBT students.
For now, the idea remains a proposal and, if approved, it would apply to all schools within the UC system.
According to the Daily Bruin, the sexual orientation question has been approved to appear in forms presented to incoming students within the Cal State and community college system.
The newspaper also reported that Provost and Executive Vice President of Academic Affairs Lawrence H. Pitts will be responsible for deciding whether to pass the proposed measure for the UC school system.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/12 12:50:16
Subject: Incoming UC Students mMay Be Asked to Declare their Sexual Orientation
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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When I went to university I had no idea what my sexual orientation was...frankly I still don't. People have such funny views about human sexuality.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/12 13:22:52
Subject: Re:Incoming UC Students mMay Be Asked to Declare their Sexual Orientation
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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We have a similar thing in the UK. Most official forms provide the option to fill in race (or to decline to do so).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/12 13:28:44
Subject: Incoming UC Students mMay Be Asked to Declare their Sexual Orientation
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
Brisbane, Australia
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It appears to be entirely optional and confidential, so absolutely no problems with it so far as I can see.
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sebster wrote:
Orlanth wrote:Its a known fact that Aussies are genetically disposed towards crime, we intentionally set them up that way.
But only awesome crimes like bushranging and, if I understand the song correctly, sheep stealing and suicide. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/12 13:30:00
Subject: Re:Incoming UC Students mMay Be Asked to Declare their Sexual Orientation
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
Southampton, Hampshire, England, British Isles, Europe, Earth, Sol, Sector 001
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Kilkrazy wrote:We have a similar thing in the UK. Most official forms provide the option to fill in race (or to decline to do so).
Indeed, just the other day I was filling out an application form for better employment and not only did they want to know your marital status and gender but also your gender preference... So in the interview I hit back with some questions about the companies LGBT policies as well as other things relating to it. Lets just ay I didn't get a call back for a second interview :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/12 13:36:54
Subject: Incoming UC Students mMay Be Asked to Declare their Sexual Orientation
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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In america i think for jobs this is illegal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/12 13:43:03
Subject: Incoming UC Students mMay Be Asked to Declare their Sexual Orientation
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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hotsauceman1 wrote:In america i think for jobs this is illegal.
I think it would probably be legal if it is under an "optional" heading.
But even if legal I would recommend against filling out a section about race/religion/sexual orientation/anything else that has ZERO bearing on job performance.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/12 21:30:58
Subject: Incoming UC Students mMay Be Asked to Declare their Sexual Orientation
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Fixture of Dakka
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Welcome to the University of California, please check the box that applies to you! (Remember this is optional: for now)
Godwin's law= fulfilled.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/12 21:52:51
Subject: Incoming UC Students mMay Be Asked to Declare their Sexual Orientation
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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I usually tick the "decline to give information" box.
In my own tiny way I'm sticking it to 'the man'.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/12 22:11:34
Subject: Incoming UC Students mMay Be Asked to Declare their Sexual Orientation
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Solahma
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Howard A Treesong wrote:In my own tiny way I'm sticking it to 'the man'.
Someone must have a joke for this occasion?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/12 22:12:49
Subject: Incoming UC Students mMay Be Asked to Declare their Sexual Orientation
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Manchu wrote:Howard A Treesong wrote:In my own tiny way I'm sticking it to 'the man'.
Someone must have a joke for this occasion?
I think the phrase would be:
'I bet you are  '
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/13 00:06:56
Subject: Incoming UC Students mMay Be Asked to Declare their Sexual Orientation
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
Brisbane, Australia
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AustonT wrote:Welcome to the University of California, please check the box that applies to you! (Remember this is optional: for now)
Godwin's law= fulfilled.
I knew someone was going to be immature enough to mention Nazi's. I just wasn't sure who.
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sebster wrote:
Orlanth wrote:Its a known fact that Aussies are genetically disposed towards crime, we intentionally set them up that way.
But only awesome crimes like bushranging and, if I understand the song correctly, sheep stealing and suicide. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/13 02:09:00
Subject: Incoming UC Students mMay Be Asked to Declare their Sexual Orientation
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Hazardous Harry wrote:AustonT wrote:Welcome to the University of California, please check the box that applies to you! (Remember this is optional: for now)
Godwin's law= fulfilled.
I knew someone was going to be immature enough to mention Nazi's. I just wasn't sure who.
But he gives himself credit for invoking Godwin's Law, so I am pretty sure he is not exactly serious about his chart applying to this scenario.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/13 02:15:09
Subject: Incoming UC Students mMay Be Asked to Declare their Sexual Orientation
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
Brisbane, Australia
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I know, or at least sincerely hope, that.
It's just I knew someone was going to mention Nazi's sooner or later, joke or not.
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sebster wrote:
Orlanth wrote:Its a known fact that Aussies are genetically disposed towards crime, we intentionally set them up that way.
But only awesome crimes like bushranging and, if I understand the song correctly, sheep stealing and suicide. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/13 11:46:53
Subject: Incoming UC Students mMay Be Asked to Declare their Sexual Orientation
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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Manchu wrote:Howard A Treesong wrote:In my own tiny way I'm sticking it to 'the man'.
Someone must have a joke for this occasion?
Of course, but it may be in bad taste.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0003/03/13 16:14:25
Subject: Incoming UC Students mMay Be Asked to Declare their Sexual Orientation
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Fixture of Dakka
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Hazardous Harry wrote:I know, or at least sincerely hope, that.
It's just I knew someone was going to mention Nazi's sooner or later, joke or not.
Don't be so immature.
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Avatar 720 wrote:You see, to Auston, everyone is a Death Star; there's only one way you can take it and that's through a small gap at the back.
Come check out my Blood Angels,Crimson Fists, and coming soon Eldar
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/391013.page
I have conceded that the Eldar page I started in P&M is their legitimate home. Free Candy! Updated 10/19.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/391553.page
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters.. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/14 10:27:01
Subject: Incoming UC Students mMay Be Asked to Declare their Sexual Orientation
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Fixture of Dakka
Manchester UK
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It might be hard to swallow, but I think they should bend over backwards to accomodate gays. I know I do.
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Cheesecat wrote:
I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/14 10:33:03
Subject: Incoming UC Students mMay Be Asked to Declare their Sexual Orientation
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
Southampton, Hampshire, England, British Isles, Europe, Earth, Sol, Sector 001
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Albatross wrote:It might be hard to swallow, but I think they should bend over backwards to accomodate gays. I know I do.
 I see what you did there
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/14 10:53:04
Subject: Incoming UC Students mMay Be Asked to Declare their Sexual Orientation
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Although UCLA has a reputation as a LGBT-friendly campus, Camilia Lacques warns that LGBT students have been victims of prejudice.
“You can walk around and hear gay, you can hear f—-t, you can hear awful remarks, you can [see] stares at some of my self-identified male friends that wear heels for example that get harassed everyday…so, as much support as there is, there is definitely anti-queer backlash on this campus,” the student said.
Isn't it kind of obvious that if your a guy and you wear heels in public your going to get a few stares and a couple of people yelling queer at you? It's not like there are fat people who seek regulation against people making fun of their weight.
edit: on second thought there probably are fat people who do that
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/14 12:06:58
Subject: Re:Incoming UC Students mMay Be Asked to Declare their Sexual Orientation
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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There is, I find it funny. Im a fat guy, its obvious, I should probably stop grilling so damn much, but its yummers. I dont get all butt hurt if someone mentions my weight, I just tell them to feth off. I think people should lose the ability to get offended by fat jokes when they have a few hundred pounds on the joke thrower.
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