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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/12 19:08:20
Subject: Dreadnoughts and assault.
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Can a dreadnought use smoke in the shooting phase then assault. I stated yes because it moves like infantry. I had a guy argue that it couldn't because once it uses smoke it can't make any other movements.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/12 19:19:51
Subject: Dreadnoughts and assault.
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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Have him show you that rule in the book.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/12 20:35:02
Subject: Dreadnoughts and assault.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/12 21:17:49
Subject: Dreadnoughts and assault.
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
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Smoke only states it stops you from shooting, it says NOTHING about movement.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/13 18:01:18
Subject: Dreadnoughts and assault.
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Ultramarine Scout with Sniper Rifle
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While he wouldn't get the cover save in that turn's assault, assume he either wiped the enemy or they had to fall back (No longer engaged in CC).
Would he still get the cover save in his opponents Shooting phase?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/13 18:07:00
Subject: Dreadnoughts and assault.
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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He certainly would in the next shooting phase get a cover save, no cover in the CC only because you are prohibited from taking cover saves against CC attacks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/13 18:10:54
Subject: Dreadnoughts and assault.
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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In rules it does't state that when it engages in CC it loses it's cover safe, so it does't!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/13 18:14:45
Subject: Dreadnoughts and assault.
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The Hive Mind
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devestator 7777777 wrote:In rules it does't state that when it engages in CC it loses it's cover safe, so it does't!!
BRB page 39 wrote:Cover does not provide protection in close combat as it
does against shooting. This means that models do not
get cover saves against any wounds suffered in close
combat, and for obvious reasons cannot go to ground.
Also, I get that english is not your first language. I appreciate your attempts to learn and communicate in it.
What you're typing is barely legible though.
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My beautiful wife wrote:Trucks = Carnifex snack, Tanks = meals. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/13 18:37:57
Subject: Dreadnoughts and assault.
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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chewielight wrote:Can a dreadnought use smoke in the shooting phase then assault. I stated yes because it moves like infantry. I had a guy argue that it couldn't because once it uses smoke it can't make any other movements.
Actually you use Smoke in the movement phase, not the shooting phase. And yes, if you use smoke in your movement phase, you can not shoot, but you can assault in the ensuing assault phase. And while it is true the dread does not lose the cover save by being engaged in CC, you can not use a cover save against CC attacks, as Rig has pointed out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/13 21:44:39
Subject: Dreadnoughts and assault.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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DeathReaper wrote:And while it is true the dread does not lose the cover save by being engaged in CC, you can not use a cover save against CC attacks, as Rig has pointed out.
Here's a minor bit of curiosity. Is the wording on the rules for cover saves sufficiently similar to the wording for the GK warding stave? In other words, do you get no cover saves against any attacks during close combat? (Much like the warding stave works against attacks in close combat, meaning they'd get to use it against a template that scattered into the combat). It's highly situational, and still not beneficial in any way for the Dread, but I was curious.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/03/13 21:46:30
Subject: Dreadnoughts and assault.
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The Hive Mind
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I posted the relevant wording, and amusingly enough it looks like you don't get cover from a stray blast that scatters over your CC.
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