Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

So new to the whole blood angel thing...

Question 1 they do not double the dreads strength correct? So i keep my Death Company Dread at S 6?

Question 2... I have 2 of them... Lets say I charge a space marine tactical squad, I kill 2, I make 2 more attacks both hit and kill, i make 2 more and keep going until I miss or do not wound?

usmcmidn wrote:So new to the whole blood angel thing...

Question 1 they do not double the dreads strength correct? So i keep my Death Company Dread at S 6?

Question 2... I have 2 of them... Lets say I charge a space marine tactical squad, I kill 2, I make 2 more attacks both hit and kill, i make 2 more and keep going until I miss or do not wound?

Correct to both

usmcmidn wrote:Question 1 they do not double the dreads strength correct? So i keep my Death Company Dread at S 6?

They are not DCCW, so they do not grant the double strength

Question 2... I have 2 of them... Lets say I charge a space marine tactical squad, I kill 2, I make 2 more attacks both hit and kill, i make 2 more and keep going until I miss or do not wound?

I think they do, but I'm not 100% sure. Someone else who knows better will probably correct me if I'm wrong.

Edit: Ninja'd by rigeld...again...

rigeld2 wrote:

usmcmidn wrote:So new to the whole blood angel thing...

Question 1 they do not double the dreads strength correct? So i keep my Death Company Dread at S 6?

Question 2... I have 2 of them... Lets say I charge a space marine tactical squad, I kill 2, I make 2 more attacks both hit and kill, i make 2 more and keep going until I miss or do not wound?

Correct to both

Thx just checkin b4 I field it... Dont wanna accidentally cheat.

Happyjew wrote:Edit: Ninja'd by rigeld...again...

One more thing...

Can this death company dreadnaught score?

I cant find anything in my codex saying it can not. But can a unit with an armor value score? ? ? Furthermore if so does that mean dedicated transports can score?

models with an AV cannot score unless they have a rule that specifically says they can, but they can contest.

Check the rules for scoring in the BRB. You have to be a Troop, Non-vehicle unless explicitly stated otherwise.

Does blood talons re-roll misses? I recall them having lightening claw pair rule.

They reroll failed to wound rolls, as they are a pair of lightning claws (plus extra)

LunaHound wrote:Does blood talons re-roll misses? I recall them having lightening claw pair rule.

Lightning claws don't reroll to hit; they reroll to wound. You might be thinking of Wolf Claws (which can choose to do either, but not both at the same time).

Other than the fact that they are a vehicle, they can't score due to Rage.

Mordechai wrote:Other than the fact that they are a vehicle, they can't score due to Rage.

Rage has nothing to do with scoring.

You could be thinking of the Black Rage, but the Death Co. Dread doesn't have that.

Mordechai wrote:Other than the fact that they are a vehicle, they can't score due to Rage.

The USR doesn't say that, and neither does the Scoring Units section on page 90.

Did I miss something?

As puma said, he might be thinking of Black Rage.

kmdl1066 wrote:As puma said, he might be thinking of Black Rage.

rigeld doesn't like to listen to me.

puma713 wrote:

kmdl1066 wrote:As puma said, he might be thinking of Black Rage.

rigeld doesn't like to listen to me.

I clicked quote, started typing, got the BRB out to verify, and then posted.

I got the ninjaed! =x

rigeld2 wrote:

I got the ninjaed! =x

puma713 wrote:

Mordechai wrote:Other than the fact that they are a vehicle, they can't score due to Rage.

Rage has nothing to do with scoring.

You could be thinking of the Black Rage, but the Death Co. Dread doesn't have that.

You might want to re-check that. Wait I'll be corrected. I just checked and it only has rage. Still vehicles are never scoring according to the BRB.

I've learned something new today - hurrah!

They're not perfect synonyms. It is a bit of a hole in the rules. That being said, IMO the FAQ does make reasonably clear what GW's intent is.

Death Company have a rule that states they do not count as scoring units.

decoste007xt wrote:Death Company have a rule that states they do not count as scoring units.

Yes, and again, Death Co. Dreads (the topic of the thread) don't have that rule. It cannot score because it is a vehicle.

unless a gk gm give use grang strategy to make the dc dread scoring?

Wouldn't work. "They can claim objectives as if they were troops" would not override the "vehicles never count as scoring units" clause.

Agree with Happyjew.

Anyway, DC Dreads are already troops, so Unyielding Anvil does nothing for them with regards scoring.

Why are we talking about DC Dreads using Grand Strategy? *boggle*

But, if somehow you could use your Grand Strategy on a DC Dread, yes it could score.

apple1988218 wrote:unless a gk gm give use grang strategy to make the dc dread scoring?

Also, even if you're in doubles I dont think that a grandmaster gives that abilty to anyone except someone in his own army.

Happyjew wrote:Wouldn't work. "They can claim objectives as if they were troops" would not override the "vehicles never count as scoring units" clause.

Not sure about that.

Games Workshop Grey Knights FAQ wrote:Q: If a walker is the target of Unyielding Anvil, from
the Grand Strategy special rule, can it claim objectives
even though it is a vehicle? (p22)

A: Yes.

In that case I retract my previous statement.

Ah, did not know about that FAQ. Not the first time an FAQ actually changes the rules, but there you go.