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2012/03/19 15:07:17
Subject: Kharn vs. Doom
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Spawn of Chaos
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Hi all.
I couldn't specifically find anything regarding this, so I was wondering if any of you might know.
Kharn's "Blessing of the Blood God" makes him immune to the effects of all psychic powers.
Doom, a far as I can tell, is a psychic power used against a unit that causes attacks against that unit to reroll failed to-wound rolls (I'm no Eldar expert, but that's how I've seen it).
The issue that came up is this: Can a unit including Kharn be doomed? If so, how are shooting attacks against said unit resolved, since the ones against Kharn wouldn't be able to be re-rolled but you also can't allocate wounds before you have an actual number of wounds to allocate.
Any thoughts?
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2012/03/19 15:09:08
Subject: Kharn vs. Doom
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Although not RAW, and is not a legal source, INAT says it best:
INAT FAQ wrote:CSM.48C.04 – Q: If Kharn is part of a unit that is affected by Eldar Doom, what happens?
A: As Kharn is not actually allocated any wounds until after all ‘to wound’ rolls are completed, in this case Doom does affect Kharn [clarification].
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
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2012/03/19 18:27:12
Subject: Re:Kharn vs. Doom
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Fixture of Dakka
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If Kharn is by himself, he cannot be doomed. If he is part of a squad, the entire squad can be doomed and all to-wound rolls can be re-rolled (INAT is RAW in this case).
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2012/03/19 18:28:19
Subject: Kharn vs. Doom
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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I should have said, that INAT is not official, not "not RAW".
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2012/03/19 18:42:40
Subject: Kharn vs. Doom
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
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Kharn simply isn't effected. You can cast whatever power you like at him, it just does nothing.
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2012/03/19 18:47:45
Subject: Kharn vs. Doom
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Yes however, since the Wounds don't get allocated until after the re-roll, the wounds can still be re-rolled.
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2012/03/19 18:50:50
Subject: Kharn vs. Doom
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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Shooting you can't pick him out cc he would be uneffected as
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2012/03/19 19:42:22
Subject: Kharn vs. Doom
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Fixture of Dakka
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juraigamer wrote:Kharn simply isn't effected. You can cast whatever power you like at him, it just does nothing.
Right. But, you're not casting at him, you're casting it at the unit. The unit is effected.
cgage00 wrote:Shooting you can't pick him out cc he would be uneffected as
Excellent point. In CC, Doom does nothing on the attacks you allocate against Khârn.
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