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 Bolognesus wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Any US deadzone backers looking to quit, go ahead and shoot me a PM. I'll buy your boosters.

Seriously, I'll pay $50 plus a share in shipping for just the plague booster bundle (leaving you with the other BoGoF booster bundle free ).

Heck I will take this deal

Yeah, I really want to order more stuff on the second survey, but I just about *have* to get my hands on something more than the two yndij and sorak I have before I can commit more funds. If I hadn't front loaded so much I'd seriously consider picking up a copy of the base game or a faction starter from miniature market or the warstore... but yeah too much in already

 primalexile wrote:

 Bolognesus wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Any US deadzone backers looking to quit, go ahead and shoot me a PM. I'll buy your boosters.

Seriously, I'll pay $50 plus a share in shipping for just the plague booster bundle (leaving you with the other BoGoF booster bundle free ).

Heck I will take this deal

...well finally, dropped you a pm. shame about the US flag (shipping wise ) but still, good.

I saw the flag, or I totally would have taken you up on the deal.

Thanks Bob and Dave - looks like I'm missing the FF Keeper as well. Time to fill out the survey then...


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 Alpharius wrote:
Yeah, not hearing about what's up with the missing or miscast stuff and not seeing a lot more of the 'Unknowns' now and possibly before the Second Survey closes?

Although, I'm not sure if we know how long the Second Survey will be open for yet.

Hopefully long enough for all of the above to be addressed...

It's Mantic. They only have half an arse. There were several sets of figures with no photos (Elf cavalry, TK Cavalry, some others - the MAA?) before the third-and-final KoW Pledge Manager closed.


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 GrimDork wrote:
I just looked, all of the newer kits are probably the same nowadays? The old stormvermin have huge noggins. A caution about plague monks is that they seem to have missing skin and hoods, unless you're into that kind of thing for your Veer-Myn.

hm, well, anything's got to be better than the stock heads, right? Oddly, Vermyn seem to be bigger than humans in Mantic's scale, while Skaven are generally smaller than humans in GW's - so hopefully it can work...

Skaven live in tunnels, Veer-myn are giant mutated rat monsters, seems fair enough that they're bigger. But what ever will you do with a distinct lack of scifi goggles and whatever else those things have... gas masks?

It may be a blessing to get a later print run of the rulebook.

The first printing of the rulebook has several items that have already been errata'ed. This includes no stats and several rules clarifications for sentry guns as well as what's legal for chaining free actions, a fairly basic piece of the game.
They note on Quirkworthy that these corrections are being made in subsequent print runs (they've apparently run through the first print). My copy has stickies patched throughout to fix just the errata ID'ed thus far.

 Azazelx wrote:



hm, well, anything's got to be better than the stock heads, right? Oddly, Vermyn seem to be bigger than humans in Mantic's scale, while Skaven are generally smaller than humans in GW's - so hopefully it can work...

How many spare beakie marine heads do you have?

I wonder about Q2 for the second shipment. Thats' what we were originally told, but the latest update (on the blog, I think) just said "this year". Which smells of a roundabout hint of delays to me.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I wonder about Q2 for the second shipment. Thats' what we were originally told, but the latest update (on the blog, I think) just said "this year". Which smells of a roundabout hint of delays to me.

Not news; they've already said that if they have to delay, they will. The overwhelming response from the community has been a position of "quality even if it's late" versus Mantic's original "on time and we reaaaallly hope it's good". The hard plastic Enforcers were tooled but weren't great, so Mantic sent them back for retooling and instead of delaying the Enforcers they threw in the freebie baggie of restic Warpath Enforcers as a "hold you over" til the plastic Enforcers get finished properly.

Worth noting that they were expecting the first test shots of the plague zombie sprue early in December, so not having seen them yet might be down to the sprue being retooled.

It's in the contract they have with their supplier now, if it turns out poorly, they have to retool.

I'd love to see the wording of that contract!

I'd like to see the expiration date.. these renedra skeletons are so good.

 Alpharius wrote:
I'd love to see the wording of that contract!

In my experience such contracts tend to contain the phrases "reasonable" and "in good faith" a lot, together with a big fat arbitration clause.
Also, refusal of product denies right to sell product, and will generally be grounds for termination.

Generally speaking, Mantic wants to get something to market and do so in a reasonable time frame, so once their supplier supplies them with decent quality product, it's not in their interest to drag things out over ten more cycles over the course of five more years.
Signing a contract like that is always a bit of a gamble but really, you'd be surprised how often medium-sized businesses (certainly in this kind of manufacturing) work partly on contract, and partly on trust and good faith.

If only the backers had such a "Do it again, stupid" clause.

I do know I would like to see some of the Forgefather figures for Deadzone before I determine what I want to spend. We've seen stuff like the Marauder weapon platform/tank, the Hulk, etc but I think this second survey really needs to have a solid theme based upon seeing the actual plastic Enforcers, and the Forgefather and Asterian starters and expansions.

I would have thought those three things would have been something they would have been previewing over the winter...seeing as they were the things that are "new" to the second survey.......

Obviously I don't want to spend 75 bucks on Forgefathers if they are not going to look like something I'd spend 75 dollars on.

They probably didn't want to clutter everything up as most of the Mantic news were "you're supposed to have these parts, here's pics and a breakdown of what they do, here's the link to the form if you're missing stuff." over the holidays. Adding renders of unreleased models to the mix would probably make the situation even more confusing as from what I understand many backers haven't read the KS updates and don't know about the Enforcers situation, what contents they should have, etc.

I can understand lots of people not reading the KS updates considering how many of them are just adverts.

Well I'd imagine form the updates, that we are going to hear about how the hard plastic situation is resolved before the second survey. I know that they are working on this issue right now, however my intel is out of date, so I have nothing to report, really.

If there's no info, then I shall e-mail Ronnie, direct.

 primalexile wrote:

 Bolognesus wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Any US deadzone backers looking to quit, go ahead and shoot me a PM. I'll buy your boosters.

Seriously, I'll pay $50 plus a share in shipping for just the plague booster bundle (leaving you with the other BoGoF booster bundle free ).

Heck I will take this deal

Okay, let's clarify this since apparently I was insufficiently clear the first time round: anyone who can ship to me within 5 business days a complete, decently cast plague booster bundle, will get $55 including shipping from me.

That second survey will be with us in two weeks or so, though - I don't really expect them to have hard plastic in hand by then given how little updates we've had on the process so far. I might order booster bundles for asterians and FF (less hard plastic, relatively much larger discount) and risk only a very small portion of that $50 - some zombies and peacemakers is basically funny money so worth a risk but I'm still a bit reluctant to take that leap for any serious amount of $$$...

edit yes, I was the third or fourth pledger to be precise if I recall correctly

Have you already pledged on dead zone then?

If you haven't ill let you piggyback on my pledge to get what you are after in the second survey. But it sounds like you have already pledged and want a booster now.


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Just started putting together the marauders and they have quickly sapped my excitement for Deadzone.

Lots of flash, hard to remove mould lines, ill fitting pieces and at least one piece that had snapped before I opened it. I decided to stop building after three.

 carlos13th wrote:
Just started putting together the marauders and they have quickly sapped my excitement for Deadzone.
Lots of flash, hard to remove mould lines, ill fitting pieces and at least one piece that had snapped before I opened it.

It's the truth, but after all the swearing (and still untouched mold lines I just recently discovered while painting them) these guys are really some of my favorite, and I did NOT want Maruaders at any point in the campaign, pretty much from the get go. Hated those original pictures we saw.

Odd how time changes your mind on things.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:

 carlos13th wrote:
Just started putting together the marauders and they have quickly sapped my excitement for Deadzone.
Lots of flash, hard to remove mould lines, ill fitting pieces and at least one piece that had snapped before I opened it.

It's the truth, but after all the swearing (and still untouched mold lines I just recently discovered while painting them) these guys are really some of my favorite, and I did NOT want Maruaders at any point in the campaign, pretty much from the get go. Hated those original pictures we saw.

Odd how time changes your mind on things.

Yeah, my favourite faction was Rebs until I got the miniatures...
So, now my favourite faction is Asterian!

I think my favorite faction is the Infinity models I got for christmas, and I haven't even gotten my stuff yet to be disappointed in it. Ehh, in seriousness, so far I haven't encountered anything on the warpath enforcers, yndij, or sorak models to aggravate me more than trimming a space marine backpack. Though I'm biased and hate those things.

Some of the details on the yndij I'm almost done with are a little softer than I'd like (not sure what one of his equipment pouch thingies is, it's more angular, almost like it should be a gun, but the lines aren't there to tell you), but so far no heavy complaints (beyond the obvious I won't shut up about ).

I dunno, I'm still excited to hear about whatever they've got worked on, last update seemed to suggest more would be forthcoming.

I'm putting together one of each kind of ripper suit right now, and haven't had any problems with them, hardly any flash, minor mold lines, and slight trimming for one arm socket and the binoculars.

I gather the problems are with other Marauders in the line?

I think the biggest issue is with the marauder pyro, although large mold lines and in bad places (like the face) have been reported as well.

I'd liked the Marauders even when they were those "horrible" original sculpts. Unfortunately, I have a hard time building enthusiasm to get them painted up. So far, I've only actually completed two of them despite already doing the prep work for more. I'm really finding that the Plague have been my favorites to work on.

I'm really wishing I'd chosen an easier color scheme for my Enforcers though since I went all in on them. Asterians hopefully will be easier though.

 GrimDork wrote:
I think the biggest issue is with the marauder pyro, although large mold lines and in bad places (like the face) have been reported as well.

I assembled a few more yesterday, two commandos and the kneeling sniper. Parts fit was okay, though the one commando with two guns needed the lug trimmed down on his left are for it to fit the hole in the torso. Mold lines were bad. Not as in really heavy, as in in bad places including down the middle of the face on one of them. Could be worse I guess.

My Marauders were much nicer to put together than my Enforcers, though I didn't have much trouble with the Enforcers (mainly because I'm lazy and missed a lot of lines).

I have encountered the issue with the marauders having lines down the center of the face, which is ok with the masks, but not when it goes over the finer details of the mouth.

NTRabbit wrote:
I'm putting together one of each kind of ripper suit right now, and haven't had any problems with them, hardly any flash, minor mold lines, and slight trimming for one arm socket and the binoculars.

I gather the problems are with other Marauders in the line?

It was the two standard troopers and the leader than came in the same bag as the dogs.

The commanders spear type thing arrive snapped off at the end

The commanders arms didn't fit together properly even after hot water trick there is still a gap between the main arm and the part of the spear he is holding is slightly bent. Gonna need to fill it with some green stuff.

The mould lines in everyones heads are pretty bad too.


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Also is the marauder captins back foot meant to touch the ground? Because it doesn't on mine.