Priming white or black for Blood Angels

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**Havok210**

So I took the plunge and started Blood Angels this week. With the base color being red, would it be more beneficial to prime them white instead of black? Getting ahold of a white primer in my area is difficult and the cost almost reaches GW's white primer.

**winterdyne**

Depends on how bright you want them. White for an oldskool, 2nd edition bright red. Black for darker.

**TheHarleqwin**

I like the darker reds when I see BA. I vote black primer, personally.

**Lovepug13**

grey lol

**sub-zero**

I actually use grey for a neutral base color.

**Winter**

Personally, I would do either Grey or Black, I find white primers to be far to temperamental for my liking, plus the hue change that they provide is far too drastic for me.

You can build solid red over black or grey if you use Mechrite Red and then Blood red, it will take a couple of layers but it does work.

**sub-zero**

Does anyone in the U.S. know of a good rattle can flat red primer? I've been searching, but all that I can find is either glossy or semi-gloss.

**CURNOW**

plasticote matt is good . but tbh i would use grey car body primer {its what i use on all my models }

**Iskandur**

Rust-oleum does one which is more of a rust color, but it would get you that initial red base and somewhere to work up to the highlights from. I've used their black from this range and had good results. It's available at Home Depot.

**darefsky (Flight Medic Paints)**

Army painter has a good red primer but its about $10 for the can

**AustonT**

Grey on small models, Black on the big ones

**Dabansheedude**

I go to halfords and buy red plastic primer

**FrozenSoul80**

White and darken them up with a black wash.

**Havok210**

So what brands outside of Krylon make a plastic safe white spray that anyone would recommend? I used to get it at Wal-Mart but they are not restocking the flat fusion colors that often anymore.

**CURNOW**

any acrylic spray paint is plastic safe .

**ruff**

you can use the gloss spray you just have to add a extra step in there to make it work, by adding dullcoat or a matt finish to the gloss paint..

**sub-zero**

ruff wrote:you can use the gloss spray you just have to add a extra step in there to make it work, by adding dullcoat or a matt finish to the gloss paint..

I tried that on some test models and the end result is either a little too thick (obscuring detail) or it's still a little too glossy for my taste. I just wish that they made a flat red that sprays on just like the flat black primer.

**Shovan**

You can use white and still end up with a darker red. Just requires the use of some washes.

I've personally had a butt load of trouble trying to get red on black or grey primer @_@