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As you probably know necrons we will be back rule now lets them always roll to get back up would you say this is fair?

Note: i know that it went from a 4+ to a 5+

Well, yes. It's what they were balanced around. It's just an extra save.

Yup, it's fair.

Something tells me you just lost to them.

I'd say its fair. Necrons are incredibly resilient, because of that. In a way Reanimation Protocols is better and worse than FNP marines. You can essentially always get back up.

No i didnt actually.

Fair or not is completely irrelevant.

It is the rules.

Did you just play a game against Necrons?

Well, if you are struggling, focus fire and destroy units at a time. Then they can't get back up

But, no, I do not think it's unfair

Von Chogg

Not unfair in the slightest. Did you just fight them?

It's what their army is built around, and their units are costed accordingly. They also have a number of other shortcomings that offsets their increased durability.

Fair? Yes.

Irritating as all hell when you're trying to wipe out a squad, one warrior survives, and then the entire bloody squad gets back up again? Also yes.

But like the others have said, they've been costed appropriately and have their own drawbacks, so eh.

Their stupendously low initiative helps offset the additional toughness, you basically for your basic Necron warrior for 13 points get a Sphess marine with feel no pain, lower initiative, lower armor save and no wargear choices.
But yes, i'd say it is certainly fair.

Entirely fair. Sweeping advance still kills them, entirely (read the SA rule) and if you dont get to SA (say, youre in termie armour) then just spread out to stand on the ever living guys body.

LOL my freind never uses feel no pain!

It's a non-issue. What is annoying is that it is nearly impossible to prevent some of their HQ, court, and sergeant choices from doing the same even when there is no Necron within a Brightlance's distance.

I will have to remember about Sweeping Advance next time I play them, though. Maybe even hint at it in our facebook group prior to games day. I'll probably be demolished by them regardless since the Necron player is a pretty damned skilled player.

Yeah, I've never found Reanimation Protocols to be unfair. It makes the Necrons incredibly hard to kill, sure, but that's there thing. You might as well complain about Tau getting Strength 5 guns, Blood Angels getting to Deep Strike accurately, Orks flooding the board with cheap troops, or Eldar having awesome psychic powers. It's what they do.

Now, I don't think that any rule is beyond criticism. GW isn't holy gospel, it's just a bunch of dudes trying to sell some games, and they damned well better write the rules so that they're fun, or we'll all go play something else. That said, I think that this rule is pretty well written. It doesn't go off too easily (5+ in most cases, 4+ with a Res Orb), it has limitations that give opponents workarounds (Sweeping Advance, unit annihilated), and the units that have it are priced accordingly. There are certainly rules in 40k that are much less fair, less balanced, and more frustrating.

ElectricPaladin wrote:Yeah, I've never found Reanimation Protocols to be unfair. It makes the Necrons incredibly hard to kill, sure, but that's there thing. You might as well complain about Tau getting Strength 5 guns, Blood Angels getting to Deep Strike accurately, Orks flooding the board with cheap troops, or Eldar having awesome psychic powers that are way less awesome that, say, the Gk ones. It's what they do.

Now, I don't think that any rule is beyond criticism. GW isn't holy gospel, it's just a bunch of dudes trying to sell some games, and they damned well better write the rules so that they're fun, or we'll all go play something else. That said, I think that this rule is pretty well written. It doesn't go off too easily (5+ in most cases, 4+ with a Res Orb), it has limitations that give opponents workarounds (Sweeping Advance, unit annihilated), and the units that have it are priced accordingly. There are certainly rules in 40k that are much less fair, less balanced, and more frustrating.

Fixed for you

jgehunter wrote:

ElectricPaladin wrote:Yeah, I've never found Reanimation Protocols to be unfair. It makes the Necrons incredibly hard to kill, sure, but that's there thing. You might as well complain about Tau getting Strength 5 guns, Blood Angels getting to Deep Strike accurately, Orks flooding the board with cheap troops, or Eldar having awesome psychic powers that are way less awesome that, say, the Gk ones. It's what they do.

Now, I don't think that any rule is beyond criticism. GW isn't holy gospel, it's just a bunch of dudes trying to sell some games, and they damned well better write the rules so that they're fun, or we'll all go play something else. That said, I think that this rule is pretty well written. It doesn't go off too easily (5+ in most cases, 4+ with a Res Orb), it has limitations that give opponents workarounds (Sweeping Advance, unit annihilated), and the units that have it are priced accordingly. There are certainly rules in 40k that are much less fair, less balanced, and more frustrating.

Fixed for you

Thanks. You're right - I sure missed that one !