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Who in there right mind would screw up being able to have sex with a female cheerleader teacher? How could you even let that be found out, and why would you actually want charges pressed on them. Back when i was in school i didn't have a single female teacher sleeping with male students. I had to go out on dates and all that junk to try and get some tail. And yet a year after i get out of school a new teacher gets hired and is sleeping with male students. WHAT THE HELL! Good grades, a girl friend with a job, and these women that are doing this are hot! Where is the justice? these women are doing a community service. Think of how fewer date rapes there are when female teachers just sleep with students? The male student that was able to sleep with his teacher better of gotten a high five from his dad!

Besides the arguments that will come from this, what do you guys think?

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I must of missed this, link or something?

Part of me thinks "Yea, sometimes they feel pressured" but the majority of the rest of my brain thinks "Yes, its finally fething happening!"
   
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It has to be said like, as much as we like "equality" these days, the sexes ARE fundamentally different.

Namely, men are the ones that do the fething. A 15 year old lad banging his female teacher is definately not the awful thing that a 15 year old girl getting gorilla fethed by the PE teacher is.

I vividly remember cos the story made me laugh, but was in my local paper a year ago about a local kid who was 13-14 or something and was shagging a woman in her thirties who was a friends mother, and in the paper it said "the lads mates started calling him by the nickname "mans balls"

He gave evidence behind a screen in court apparently. I would want a screen as well, to hide the 12 inch grin creased across my fething face!

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Good on that kid, he got himself a cougar. People round these parts would call him lucky, hung like a mule AND bags older women? gak.
   
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Can we have a post that's actually remotely coherent, or perhaps a link to an article that is written by someone who is competent with the English language?

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I presume he means this...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/post/bengals-cheerleader-former-teacher-sarah-jones-pleads-not-guilty-to-sexually-abusing-student/2012/04/02/gIQAy6yHrS_blog.html

Sarah Jones, the captain of the Ben-Gals cheerleading squad, was indicted last week on claims that she had sex with a 16-year-old high school football player four or five times and exchanged numerous text messages with the student, as first reported by the Cincinnati Enquirer.

Jones, who resigned from her job as an English teacher at Dixie Heights High in Kentucky in November, faces charges of first-degree sexual abuse and unlawful use of electronic means to induce a minor to engage in sexual or other prohibited acts.


Sex is legal at 16 in the UK anyway.. I have to say.. The bloke has a point. Its different if its male adult on female juvenile no matter how you slice it.

The kid dropped the ball letting this out of the bag! Maybe his dad figured they could make some money out of it.



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It's not that different though. The only real difference between the two that matters to me is who risks getting pregnant-- seeing a young girl's life ruined because she was knocked up is always an unfortunate thing, while the older woman should honestly know better and use birth control (not that I expect someone such as that to be responsible in the first place).

Either way, since it was legal, I don't think there should be any punishment.

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Melissia wrote:It's not that different though. The only real difference between the two that matters to me is who risks getting pregnant-- seeing a young girl's life ruined because she was knocked up is always an unfortunate thing, while the older woman should honestly know better and use birth control (not that I expect someone such as that to be responsible in the first place).

Either way, since it was legal, I don't think there should be any punishment.


It was in Kentucky though Mel, so I don't think it was legal. I was just saying, you know, it would be here.

And If I was that kid I would be the envy of my mates at school!

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Melissia wrote:Can we have a post that's actually remotely coherent, or perhaps a link to an article that is written by someone who is competent with the English language?


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Melissia wrote:It's not that different though. The only real difference between the two that matters to me is who risks getting pregnant-- seeing a young girl's life ruined because she was knocked up is always an unfortunate thing, while the older woman should honestly know better and use birth control (not that I expect someone such as that to be responsible in the first place).

Either way, since it was legal, I don't think there should be any punishment.


On the subject of legality, over here, even thought the age of consent is 16, any teacher or other holder of a position of trust having sex with someone in their care who is under the age of 18 is commiting a crime, as they're abusing their position of trust. I'm not sure, but maybe they have something similar, which is where the charges are coming from?

   
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mattyrm wrote:It has to be said like, as much as we like "equality" these days, the sexes ARE fundamentally different.

Namely, men are the ones that do the fething. A 15 year old lad banging his female teacher is definately not the awful thing that a 15 year old girl getting gorilla fethed by the PE teacher is.

I vividly remember cos the story made me laugh, but was in my local paper a year ago about a local kid who was 13-14 or something and was shagging a woman in her thirties who was a friends mother, and in the paper it said "the lads mates started calling him by the nickname "mans balls"

He gave evidence behind a screen in court apparently. I would want a screen as well, to hide the 12 inch grin creased across my fething face!


I really don't think there is much of a difference, really, aside form the one Melissia pointed out.* Women do not like sex any less than men do. And older guys can just as easily be really cool handsome types as older women can be really beautiful and sexy. So it depends entirely on the specific persons and circumstances involved whether a 15-year-old having sex with his/her 35-year-old teacher is a bad or a good thing for them.

*And yes, while this can be a problem if the girl was actually pressured into this, it probably won't be if she wasn't, since then the guy she has fun with can be just as much a responsible person and make sure they use some form of protection as a female older partner could be. In the former case, he is obviously a jerk to begin with so I wouldn't expect him pointing the matter out to the girl. As such, if the kid is pressured into it, it is probably worse for a girl than for a boy.

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It probably comes down to a matter of legal equality. If they don't prosecute women for having sex with underage boys - no matter how willing the boys were - it becomes very hard to then prosecute men for having sex with underage girls who were genuinely unwilling.

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Melissia wrote:Can we have a post that's actually remotely coherent, or perhaps a link to an article that is written by someone who is competent with the English language?


i read this post and started thinking that i missed something. After i posted this, i went looking for something on the internet but didn't find it. I saw it on the tv. But after reading who posted this comment I just realized that there was a troll.. and god forbid i am perfect. but thank you for trolling an off topic forum. you make the world a better place by keeping people in line thank you. god bless the queen.

But come on. For high school aged boys this is the one thing we all have thought about in the shower at one point in our lives. Just wanted to know what you guys thought. I think the gender war breaks down like this, boys who sleep with older women are looking for one thing. sex, girls who sleep with older men are looking for anything but sex. So i figure boys want to do the nasty while girls have daddy issues. enough said.

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Melissia wrote:Can we have a post that's actually remotely coherent, or perhaps a link to an article that is written by someone who is competent with the English language?




But come on. For high school aged boys this is the one thing we all have thought about in the shower at one point in our lives. Just wanted to know what you guys thought. I think the gender war breaks down like this, boys who sleep with older women are looking for one thing. sex, girls who sleep with older men are looking for anything but sex. So i figure boys want to do the nasty while girls have daddy issues. enough said.


Maybe the boys have mommy issues?

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Vulcan wrote:It probably comes down to a matter of legal equality. If they don't prosecute women for having sex with underage boys - no matter how willing the boys were - it becomes very hard to then prosecute men for having sex with underage girls who were genuinely unwilling.


It is because informed consent is by legal definition not an option for people under the age of consent, however willing the participants may be.

The idea that boys are different is fundamentally sexist as it assumes that girls aged 15 are not capable of making the same quality of decisions as boys aged 15.

Even if that were not the case, the problem of underage boys having illegal sex with older women is far from the most dire that faces modern society, and there is no pressing need to rectify the situation by the reduction of the age of consent for boys.

In this case and similar ones, there is an additional dimension which is the power relationship between the two participants. The teacher is "in loco parentis" and has a duty of care and trust towards their charges.

There's an adage in business that you should never "pork the payroll". It stems from the same concerns about using a power relationship to influence sexual choices.

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deathholydeath wrote:
PapaPiggy wrote:
Melissia wrote:Can we have a post that's actually remotely coherent, or perhaps a link to an article that is written by someone who is competent with the English language?




But come on. For high school aged boys this is the one thing we all have thought about in the shower at one point in our lives. Just wanted to know what you guys thought. I think the gender war breaks down like this, boys who sleep with older women are looking for one thing. sex, girls who sleep with older men are looking for anything but sex. So i figure boys want to do the nasty while girls have daddy issues. enough said.


Maybe the boys have mommy issues?


This maybe something to look at. But i think history has shown that if a boy has mommy issues, he either plays warhammer way to much. Or kills women and gay men. hard to tell the future with out my crystal ball.

And this thread is kinda going off topic. I don't care about the legal side of things. I want to know your personal thoughts about a teenage boy being able to get into his teacher's pants. How many men out there can remember high school as being a time of great self love? To say it with out using certain words. and yet this kid bagged a pro cheerleader, teacher. How did he do it? I want to know. Was it her idea? Does that kid have such a great power play that he is set with women for the rest of his life? Does he teach classes? i would enroll in that class in a heart beat. "Getting a cheerleader 101" Yea that would be a title in an adult publication.

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PapaPiggy wrote:But come on. For high school aged boys this is the one thing we all have thought about in the shower at one point in our lives
And that handsome male teacher (often a PE teacher) got fantasized about by the (heterosexual) girls, too. It's not exactly something unique to boys.

I know I saw many girls flirting with the more popular and attractive of our coaches.

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If the student had been gay and the teacher also male, would this be cheer-worthy or paedophilia?

Whilst as a bloke, I saw the teacher's pics and thought 'hell, I'd have loved a go on that as a 16yr old lad', I am also aware that a woman in her mid-20s teaching at a school is legally 'in loco parentis' and has a legal and ethical obligation not to abuse that.

There are further ramifications regarding her manipulation and influence over the student and her potential treatment of other students as well. How well is she likely to handle a situation regarding a student complaining to her that they are being bullied by her 'boyfriend' or even sexually harassed? Ridicule? Jealousy?



 
   
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MeanGreenStompa wrote:If the student had been gay and the teacher also male, would this be cheer-worthy or paedophilia?

Whilst as a bloke, I saw the teacher's pics and thought 'hell, I'd have loved a go on that as a 16yr old lad', I am also aware that a woman in her mid-20s teaching at a school is legally 'in loco parentis' and has a legal and ethical obligation not to abuse that.

There are further ramifications regarding her manipulation and influence over the student and her potential treatment of other students as well. How well is she likely to handle a situation regarding a student complaining to her that they are being bullied by her 'boyfriend' or even sexually harassed? Ridicule? Jealousy?


Exactly.

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Wish I could have had a piece of that at 16... :(

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So what kind of woman/girl over 20 wants to sleep with a thirteen year old anyway? I didn't think inexperience, pubescence or acne were among things the adult female found attractive.

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Also exactly. usually there's "issues" involved.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Melissia wrote:It's not that different though. The only real difference between the two that matters to me is who risks getting pregnant-- seeing a young girl's life ruined because she was knocked up is always an unfortunate thing, while the older woman should honestly know better and use birth control (not that I expect someone such as that to be responsible in the first place).

Either way, since it was legal, I don't think there should be any punishment.


To be fair, it would be the young lasses fault for allowing herself to be put in that position (G'night everybody) in the first place.

I think she should lose her job (She resigned already), as it is kind of an abuse of power to do something like that, but other than that I agree, no further punishment is required.

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I think that it should be taken on a case-by-case basis. Boys can fall madly in love and get hurt just like girls, or be pressured into it if they are unwilling, and girls are not all virgin mary's- some would love to feth a handsome teacher just for the fun of it, no strings attached.


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But come on. For high school aged boys this is the one thing we all have thought about in the shower at one point in our lives. Just wanted to know what you guys thought. I think the gender war breaks down like this, boys who sleep with older women are looking for one thing. sex, girls who sleep with older men are looking for anything but sex. So i figure boys want to do the nasty while girls have daddy issues. enough said.


Well, i suppose older men would be better than dopey teen boys in bed. More experience, maturity, plus it has the sexy taboo charm.

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PapaPiggy wrote:
I think the gender war breaks down like this, boys who sleep with older women are looking for one thing. sex, girls who sleep with older men are looking for anything but sex. So i figure boys want to do the nasty while girls have daddy issues. enough said.


I think that's, in the main, incorrect. Women and girls are often attracted to power (anthropologists will make reference here to the woman subconsciously assessing the strength of a man's genetics for their future offspring). Girls being attracted to an older male in a position of authority (alpha), whether it's at school with a mid-twenties teacher, or at work with a manager, is a fairly common thing and it's entirely about sex, in fact that's the chemical and psychological driver behind it.

*I'm not referring to the young model marring a geriatric millionaire here, btw, I am talking about the 20/30something girls becoming mistresses to managers in their 40/50s.




 
   
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I think that's, in the main, incorrect. Women and girls are often attracted to power (anthropologists will make reference here to the woman subconsciously assessing the strength of a man's genetics for their future offspring). Girls being attracted to an older male in a position of authority (alpha), whether it's at school with a mid-twenties teacher, or at work with a manager, is a fairly common thing and it's entirely about sex, in fact that's the chemical and psychological driver behind it.

*I'm not referring to the young model marring a geriatric millionaire here, btw, I am talking about the 20/30something girls becoming mistresses to managers in their 40/50s.


Age sometimes matters, but I imagine its the confidence and bearing that age tends to produce that are actual attractive characteristics.

Its also worth noting that there is often a sort of arbitrariness in these cases regarding age alone. That cute 18 year old volleyball player was probably just as cute at 17, and probably just as attractive to 20-something men and women. I mean, I remember seeing a story about some girl named Angie Varona having a bunch of tame, but fairly revealing, pictures of her posted on the internet. The girl was 14, but very "developed", and therefore became a source of unintentional CP for many.

Of course here the issue is more about her position as a teacher than her age. If she had just been sleeping with the kid (assuming she was), its likely few people would know, and fewer would care. His parents might not be happy, but they also might not pursue charges.

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Honestly, there would be no issue if she wasn't his teacher.

Though admittingly we don't know when this started; After his sixteenth birthday, meh, just an abuse-of-power-fling. Before, when he was underage, hang her right next to that arse hat who left his wife with a student he started having relations with when she was too young.

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