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this is my first attempt at a warhammer fantasy army so all criticism, comments and answers are greatly encouraged

i am starting a high elves army after branching from 40k along with a friend hes going to be playing dark elves so im looking for a list thats for one legal as im not fully accustomed to the rules yet

so here goes

heroes

mage lvl2
the seerstaff of saphery
165

core

16x archers
16x light armor
1x hawkeye
1x standard bearer
212

16x archers
16x light armor
1x hawkeye
1x standard bearer
212

special

10x shadow warriors
shadow walker
172

10x shadow warriors
shadow walker
172

10x shadow warriors
shadow walker
172

10x shadow warriors
shadow walker
172

rare

repeater bolt thrower
100

repeater bolt thrower
100

total 1477

i right in thinking you cant take a lord in a 1500 point match?

is there any point in talking 40 shadow warriors?

thanks
jordan

1. Yes you can take a lord, up to 25% of the army total.
2. Archer champions are a waste of points.
3. Shadow Warriors aren't really worth taking en mass. A single unit of 5 or 10 would be enough, sometimes too many.
4. Bolt Throwers are pretty worthless in an HE army.

You can take a Lord at 1,500pts so long as he doesn't cost more than 375pts.

Archers as a Core choice are not especially useful, I'd advise starting from a Spearmen block instead.

Shadow Warriors are cool-looking and all, but you don't need nearly that many, and there are much better Special choices in the list. Most High Elf armies use medium-sized units of White Lions or Sword Masters to back up the aforementioned Spearmen black with flank charges.

Don't listen to Aerethan, Bolt Throwers aren't worthless. They're situational, but can be devastating if the proper situation crops up (getting a shot down the file of an enemy unit, for instance, or getting a clear shot at a small unprotected heavy cavalry unit (not that anyone uses heavy cavalry in 8e)).

Aerethan wrote:4. Bolt Throwers are pretty worthless in an HE army.

If taken in small numbers yes, however I have tried taking x4 in a 2500pt. game...lets just say in combination with High Magics "Curse of Arrow Attraction" I killed nearly twenty Saurus warriors in one turn of shooting

Other then that your army will be very hard pressed to deal with anything (especially if your buddy has Hydras) when they get close and eventually into combat. My recomendation would be to trade out ALL the shadow warriors and replace them with White Lions as they are much more survivable then swordmasters (3+ save against shooting) and are better in close combat then phoenix guard since they have S6 weapons and also they are stubborn which is a bonus. Also depending on how competitive you are planning on becoming I would run an Archmage level 4 with High Magic as it will do much better in regards to support for your entire army. Hope this helps.

Second attempt

heroes

archmage lvl4
silver wand
folariaths robe
loremasters cloak
355

core

20x spearmen
standard bearer
190

20x spearmen
standard bearer
190

special

10x sword masters
blade lord
165

10x sword masters
blade lord
165

10x sword master
blade lord
standard
banner of sorcery
227

rare

repeater bolt thrower
100

repeater bolt thrower
100

total 1492

Your 2nd attempt looks much better with your caster being ethereal and having a 2+ ward save against magical attacks, prepare yourself to hearing some opponents complain . The rest of your list looks pretty good with the swordmasters instead of the shadow warriors, just realize if you play a shooting army you may struggle as Sword Masters die in droves vs shooting heavy/magic missile spam lists. I would maybe consider trading them out for White Lions (as mentioned above they are the best all around unit, but I love swordmasters to) but overall it seems like a pretty good list.

Thanks for the replys/help i will be running the list in a match on wednesday so will do a battle report

@gmaleron i ran the arch mage in a 15 way hq match and came out top due to vauls unmaking taking out quite a few of the magic weapons