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I found this through a few google searches and some reading. I have a problem with the FIVE battlewagons I thought about lootas or maybe a kopta or even some bikes to kinda mix it up.

HQ:
Ghazghkull Thraka

Big Mek KFF

Troops:
(5) Meganobz
w/ 2x Shoota-Scorchas
Battlewagon
w/ Armor Plates, Boarding Plank, 2x Big Shootas, Killkannon, Reinforced Ram, Red Paint Job

(5) Meganobz
w/ 2x Shoota-Scorchas
Battlewagon
w/ Armor Plates, Boarding Plank, 2x Big Shootas, Killkannon, Reinforced Ram, Red Paint Job


(20) Slugga Boyz
Nob w/ Bosspole, Power Klaw


(20) Slugga Boyz
Nob w/ Bosspole, Power Klaw



(20) Slugga Boyz
Nob w/ Bosspole, Power Klaw

Heavy:
Battlewagon
w/ Armor Plates, Boarding Plank, 2x Big Shootas, Reinforced Ram, Red Paint Job

Battlewagon
w/ Armor Plates, Boarding Plank, 2x Big Shootas, Reinforced Ram, Red Paint Job]

Battlewagon
w/ Armor Plates, Boarding Plank, 2x Big Shootas, Reinforced Ram, Red Paint Job

Sadly ghaz only lets one nobs unit be troops. Also dedicated nob transports can't have a killakannon and they don't really need one, if you want I pie plate go for looted wagons. You really need deffrollas not reinforced rams on your battlewagons. Only one big shoota on a wagons. others are useless.

I changed the mek in instead of the other warboss with klaw. Would the other warboss make them troops? I DEFINITELY want defrollas. I thought they had those =[ so what would your list look like?

yes a second warboss would let another mob be troops but a kff is better.

heres my take.

HQ:
Ghazghkull Thraka

Big Mek KFF

elites:

12 lootas

Troops:

(5) Meganobz
w/ 2x Shoota-Scorchas
Battlewagon
w/ Armor Plates, Boarding Plank, 2x Big Shootas, deffrolla, Red Paint Job


(20) Shoota Boyz
Nob w/ Bosspole, Power Klaw one rokkit


(20) Shoota Boyz
Nob w/ Bosspole, Power Klaw one rokkit



(20) Shoota Boyz
Nob w/ Bosspole, Power Klaw one rokkit

Fast attack

deffkopta
saw rokkit

kopta
saw rokkit

kopta
saw rokkit

Heavy:
Battlewagon
w/ Boarding Plank, 2x Big Shootas, deffrolla, Red Paint Job

Battlewagon
w/ Boarding Plank, 2x Big Shootas, deffrolla, Red Paint Job]

Battlewagon
w/ Boarding Plank, 2x Big Shootas, deffrolla, Red Paint Job

Sigh, I only have sluggas =[

Yeah. It's a bugger about the Nob transports not getting the KillK.

What I do is with my Shooty 2K battlewagon list is give the KillK to the Heavy Supports and the Kannon to two 3-man, Nob squads (no upgrades). On turn one, I swap the Nobs out for 2 x 18 shoota boy (inc 1 big shoota) + Nob (PK, 'eA, BossP) . The Nobs are then basically an assault screening unit for my Lootas, so they don't need to be in a BW. Won't work with an assault variant though as you want the MNobz to get up an assault.

Is there a way to make sluggas work in thia list? How many lootas would you use? Im terribley new to orks

Gharron wrote:Is there a way to make sluggas work in thia list? How many lootas would you use? Im terribley new to orks

Sluggas can work, most people use them, I just prefer shootas. I find them more durable. And on the only having sluggas I know what you mean as before I used shootas all my boys where sluggas. It took me and another person about two hours of work to get even half my boys shootas. I don't like lootas in a bw list, they move slowly and often are left as sitting ducks to things that can't hurt the wagons. Battlewagons imo are the best way to run orks. They are just amazing.

Hmm. I may have to use sluggas for the time being. What makes a shoota boy? It's not those big shootas out of the lootas box right? I have 2 of those so far. I'm trying to get everything in this list ready for a tourney in july but I'm coming up short on a definite list =[

Shoota boys have shootas, it comes in battleforces and boys boxes, if you bought aobr then you have some conversion work in order. If you want to know how to make sluggas shootas post it in the modeling section or pm me.

BW need Deff Rollas!

Since battlewagons should be opened top all you need is the chassis to be within 18inch range of your target and all 20 boys are shooting 2 shots each for a total of 40 shots. Same thing with Burnas which I really like.. Open topped wagon pulls up to a unit on foot with 15 burnas inside, place a flame template that covers lets say 4 guys 60 auto hits at S4 would be around 10 dead marines or 30 dead gaunts.

I'm just trying to figure out what I NEED to buy to get a list I could take to tourneys lol I've got a few things but I'm not sure where I need to bulk up. I bought two big meks but I guess I don't have the right guys for a battlewagon bash everything I has is sluggas =[

Sluggas work fine too... BUT NUMBER 1
GET THOSE DEFFROLLAS ( they can win you a game )
Other than that here is something I would do ( I am not a pro so take my advice with grains of salt )
Drop Mega Nobz and get 5 man regular Nobz with a painboy 5++ and FNP and none of that slow and purposeful
Drop killkannons
BW + deffrolla + Big shoota + RPJ
Stormboyz or deffcoptas for tying stuff up or rushing to IG parking lots
You can get cute and drop lootas for commandos with Snik and sneak in Ghaz
1 set of lootas = 1 set of dead lootas to long range weapons that cant crack AV14 (psy ammo spam)

You don't need two big shootas on Battlewagons, only one!

Deffkoptas and Lootas suit BW lists fine. Koptas can alpha strike via scout or turbo boost to be a distraction unit. Lootas add ranged fire power while you roll up the board.

HQ:
Ghazghkull Thraka

Big Mek KFF

Troops:
(5) Meganobz
w/ 2x Shoota-Scorchas
Battlewagon
w/ Armor Plates, Boarding Plank, 2x Big Shootas, Killkannon, Reinforced Ram, Red Paint Job

(5) Meganobz
w/ 2x Shoota-Scorchas
Battlewagon
w/ Armor Plates, Boarding Plank, 2x Big Shootas, Killkannon, Reinforced Ram, Red Paint Job


(20) Slugga Boyz
Nob w/ Bosspole, Power Klaw


(20) Slugga Boyz
Nob w/ Bosspole, Power Klaw



(20) Slugga Boyz
Nob w/ Bosspole, Power Klaw

Heavy:

Battlewagon
w/ Armor Plates, Boarding Plank, Big Shoota, deff rolla, Red Paint Job


Battlewagon
w/ Armor Plates, Boarding Plank, Big Shoota, deff rolla, Red Paint Job

Battlewagon
w/ Armor Plates, Boarding Plank, Big Shoota, deff rolla, Red Paint Job



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Revised list =)
I have kommandos I have koptas I even have the nobs to make all of this happen! I just worry about putting a list together that has no synergy I'm trying for 30 lootas 12 bikes 5 wagons 10 meganobs and a few jmore trukks. I don't like the looted wagons (that much) but I've never really been a fan of ork mek I love the bodies rushing in a huge wave XD I even have 7 kans and a deff dread but I don't really knoiw how a kan wall works so I guess. I'm going to put some things into play see what holds up but I'd like to keep working on this list and see what happens with it. least it would be a starting point...

Sluggas do work fine, I just prefer shootas for my personal style. You don't need to buy it at all.

Btw All this list really NEEDS is a little bit of anti tank. Other than that your good.

I find meganobs better in bw spam lists. They are cheaper for a similar role. You just have to think a little more cautiously.

With a little anti tank you'll do fine in a tournament. If you have koptas theres really no other things you need. You can do fine.

I've got six koptas =) would you do 3 squads of 1? Are lootas anti tank? I'm going to put deff rollas on all 5 battlewagons

I would personally do 2 squads of 3 one saw in each all with big shootas. It makes them rather survivable and still anti tank with saw.

Deffrollas will help. They rock.

Lootas might work, but I find them mediocre at anti tank and mediocre at anti infintry. So yes and no. In bw lists I find them poor as they get left behind and targeted by that which can't hurt battlewagons. Other lists they might work great. I just think in this list they would be too soft and weak. If you put them in battlewagons, they would rock, the only problem is as good as that would be it is a slot better filled with boys. That is of course my opinion. Some may steer you other ways but in every game I try lootas in a non tide or non kan list I don't like them.

You do not need kill kannons or two big shootas. You want to be moving 12" all the time to get the Orks into combat and also get those deffrollas smashing things up. Having a kill kannon means you have to move 6" to fire. You also don't need two big shootas either, just one.

Really need Lootas as well for anti tank.

mercer wrote:You do not need kill kannons or two big shootas. You want to be moving 12" all the time to get the Orks into combat and also get those deffrollas smashing things up. Having a kill kannon means you have to move 6" to fire. You also don't need two big shootas either, just one.

Really need Lootas as well for anti tank.

I tried to fix that and missed those XD (the big shootas that is) and I'm trying for 30 lootas is that about the sweet spot for lootas or lower numbers?

It depends what you want - you will have to make some sacrifices with your 5 BW list to fit in some lootas. Given how one of your MANz are an elite choice, you have 2 elite slots left.

Lootas are my favourite unit of the ork codex, and they are quite formidable.

A group of 10 lootas are able to, on average, take out one AV11 vehicle a turn (I can send you the maths in a PM), and have the potential to disrupt AV12 on a less frequent basis.

Lootas are brilliant at taking out dedicated transports - Trukks, Rhino's, Razorbacks, Raiders, Wave Serpents, etc, at range.

I feel that taking lootas in groups less than 10 aren't really worthwhile, so bear that in mind.

I would if extra points allow keep at least 2 shootas, mainly for weapon destory results they have to go thru a lot of them to stop that wagon.

I've been thinking about dropping a wagon in the list to get some added fire support maybe more boys and add in a group of kommandos. I'm not sure yet. I dunno how strong 4 wagons and 30 lootas would be though >.>

You need Lootas and more infantry.

5 battlewaggons is overkill imo.

4 wagons is fine. It works great. I still don't like lootas in a bw list for reasons previosly explained. I think the points would be better spent on koptas or 2 ghazghkulls.lol. But seriously imo it could be better spent elsewhere

i would run two ghaz in every list if i could

Overkill never been a bad thing in 40k, let alone orks.

Grimgar314 wrote:4 wagons is fine. It works great. I still don't like lootas in a bw list for reasons previosly explained. I think the points would be better spent on koptas or 2 ghazghkulls.lol. But seriously imo it could be better spent elsewhere

Aside from the koptas where would you stick the points if not on lootas? I have bikes kommandos a ton of things to stick in that slot.

the list looks cool, I would try it the way it is and see where it needs improvement.