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Burtucky, Michigan

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/16/justice/baseball-clemens/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn


My question is though, does our government really need to give a gak about something like this? We dont have enough problems going on that they need to see if pro athletes, that can do things that normal folk just laugh at the thought of attempting? Can someone explain to me why then? I dont follow sports, and this is really the first time Ive read/heard about it, and my first thought was........."Are you fething kidding me?"
   
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Lying to congress is a VERY serious matter as it is over here when people lie to Parliment.

Although I think the whole drugs and sport thing is over blown. I say let them kill themselves with steriods if they want to.

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Burtucky, Michigan

Yea I get that lying to Congress is a bad thing. My point is though, why should he have been there, lying in the first fething place? What does a sports team have to answer to Congress for anyways?
   
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New Orleans, LA

KingCracker wrote:Yea I get that lying to Congress is a bad thing. My point is though, why should he have been there, lying in the first fething place? What does a sports team have to answer to Congress for anyways?


Because Roger Clemens is a fething moron. He wasn't even called to that hearing. He volunteered to "clear his name" and then (allegedly) lied is ass off.

What a fething moron. Had he never said anything, no one would know gak about him, and he'd a be a first ballet HoFamer. Now, he's just a D-Bag that played for Boston, Toronto, and New York.

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So this is not just him digging his own grave, but grabbing a gun, buying ammo and helping himself into it as well?

   
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New Orleans, LA

n0t_u wrote:So this is not just him digging his own grave, but grabbing a gun, buying ammo and helping himself into it as well?


That's my opinion of him, anyway. I was a HUGE fan of Clemens when I was growing up (and when I was older). Anytime he was pitching on TV, I'd watch him.

Oh well.

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I definitely agree that there are many things govt should stay the feth away from.... sports is on that list.


However, had some senator never made a paper that said everyone who gave what is presumably his team a bad run (whether they left town in bad terms or refused to play for them, etc) was on steroids... this would never have happened.

But, because someone did waste govt money doing that, we are left with the pieces and fallout... including someone who has a harsh personality allegedly lying to congress... whch is still actually something seen as sserious
   
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KingCracker wrote:Yea I get that lying to Congress is a bad thing. My point is though, why should he have been there, lying in the first fething place? What does a sports team have to answer to Congress for anyways?


MLB currently enjoys an exception from US Antitrust law (monopoly laws). I assume members of the MLB were called to testify before Congress ostensibly for the purpose of evaluating whether that antitrust immunity should stand.

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KingCracker wrote:Yea I get that lying to Congress is a bad thing. My point is though, why should he have been there, lying in the first fething place? What does a sports team have to answer to Congress for anyways?


Its called...distraction.
   
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kronk wrote:
n0t_u wrote:So this is not just him digging his own grave, but grabbing a gun, buying ammo and helping himself into it as well?


That's my opinion of him, anyway. I was a HUGE fan of Clemens when I was growing up (and when I was older). Anytime he was pitching on TV, I'd watch him.

Oh well.


Yeppers, I loved watching him pitch when he was playing for Toronto (can't believe I said I liked something from Toronto...shutters), now along with so many others he's just dug his own grave. Good riddance imho.


   
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I thought I recognised the name.

He's the one that ends up thinking he's a chicken in the 'Softball' Simpsons episode.

I'm assuming he was good at what he did, seeing as my only knowledge of him is from that episode and the song in it.
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From the article, the only thing i'm getting is that he seems to be a bit 'pants on head' special.

   
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New Orleans, LA

Medium of Death wrote:
I'm assuming he was good at what he did, seeing as my only knowledge of him is from that episode and the song in it.



One of the best pitchers to play, actually. His nickname was the Rocket due to his over-powering fastball. How much did steroids play into his longevity, though? He was pitching better at 35+ than most 25 year olds, he won the Cy Young award at 42 years old, and he pitched until he was 44.

Just a few of his accolades:
#3 on the all-time strike out list.
#9 on the all-time wins list.
1 MVP (Very rare for a pitcher)
7 time Cy Young Award winner (most by any pitcher) (Basically, the Pitcher of the Year award)


(I had completely forgotten about his stint here in Houston for some reason! I saw him pitch a number of times, specifically watching the rotation so I could see him at home.)

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Chicago

kronk wrote:One of the best pitchers to play part-time, actually.


Fixed that for you. He only played 3 years of baseball. The other 21 years, he pitched and then hid in the dugout when it was his turn to bat.

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New Orleans, LA

Grakmar wrote:
kronk wrote:One of the best pitchers to play part-time, actually.


Fixed that for you. He only played 3 years of baseball. The other 21 years, he pitched and then hid in the dugout when it was his turn to bat.


Don't get me started.

Upset does not begin to describe my feelings about the Houston Astros moving to the American League next season.

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United States

KingCracker wrote:Yea I get that lying to Congress is a bad thing. My point is though, why should he have been there, lying in the first fething place? What does a sports team have to answer to Congress for anyways?


Well, given all the travelling pro athletes do, any steroid use they engage in is likely a federal matter.

Then of course its a sort of glad-handing issue because, you know, baseball is American.

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Grakmar wrote:
kronk wrote:One of the best pitchers to play part-time, actually.


Fixed that for you. He only played 3 years of baseball. The other 21 years, he pitched and then hid in the dugout when it was his turn to bat.



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kronk wrote:
Medium of Death wrote:
I'm assuming he was good at what he did, seeing as my only knowledge of him is from that episode and the song in it.



One of the best pitchers to play, actually. His nickname was the Rocket due to his over-powering fastball. How much did steroids play into his longevity, though? He was pitching better at 35+ than most 25 year olds, he won the Cy Young award at 42 years old, and he pitched until he was 44.

Just a few of his accolades:
#3 on the all-time strike out list.
#9 on the all-time wins list.
1 MVP (Very rare for a pitcher)
7 time Cy Young Award winner (most by any pitcher) (Basically, the Pitcher of the Year award)


(I had completely forgotten about his stint here in Houston for some reason! I saw him pitch a number of times, specifically watching the rotation so I could see him at home.)



He was #1 for being a grade-A egotistical douche.

He has refused an invite to the Sox 100th celebration, but I think that is actuall a plus not a loss.

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CT GAMER wrote:
He has refused an invite to the Sox 100th celebration, but I think that is actuall a plus not a loss.



I think you also have to look at the manner in which the Sux told him that they no longer wanted his services.
   
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Ensis Ferrae wrote:
CT GAMER wrote:
He has refused an invite to the Sox 100th celebration, but I think that is actuall a plus not a loss.



I think you also have to look at the manner in which the Sux told him that they no longer wanted his services.


If that was intentional it is lost on me, I hate all things baseball...

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CT GAMER wrote:
Ensis Ferrae wrote:
CT GAMER wrote:
He has refused an invite to the Sox 100th celebration, but I think that is actuall a plus not a loss.



I think you also have to look at the manner in which the Sux told him that they no longer wanted his services.


If that was intentional it is lost on me, I hate all things baseball...


yes, it was intentional, as I am a huge Yankees fan
   
 
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