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2012/04/22 05:08:37
Subject: [Poll]The Flood vs. the Reapers
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Now then, my friends and I started asking among ourselves, who would win in a confrontation between the Flood and the Reapers? Can the Reapers even indoctrinate the Flood? Can the Flood assimilate the Reapers or overwhelm their consciousness? And which one has superior technology: the Reapers with their mastery of mass effect physics and element zero technology, or the Flood with it's assimilated covenant technology?
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/04/22 13:48:22
I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/04/22 05:23:58
Subject: The Flood vs. the Reapers
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Myrmidon Officer
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The Flood was defeated alone by superman with poor reaction speed and a couple guns.
Reapers were defeated by Captain Kirk weilding a Deus Ex Machina MacGuffin... and not 100% destroyed/defeated.
Reapers clearly are more difficult to kill.
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2012/04/22 05:39:15
Subject: The Flood vs. the Reapers
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Absolutionis wrote:The Flood was defeated alone by superman with poor reaction speed and a couple guns.
Reapers were defeated by Captain Kirk weilding a Deus Ex Machina MacGuffin... and not 100% destroyed/defeated.
Reapers clearly are more difficult to kill.
That's overdoing it a bit...
The Flood might not be able to assimilate the Reapers themselves, but the Reaper ground forces, husks and like, could. And the Flood has slipspace technology, not to mention plasma weaponry. Granted, the Reaper main cannon is as powerful (if not more so) as a super-MAC and their secondary weapons are all Thanix Cannons and directed-energy weapons, the Flood's assimilated Covenant tech might let them take the Reapers on if they ignore collateral damage.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/04/22 05:39:38
I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/04/22 05:54:17
Subject: Re:The Flood vs. the Reapers
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Cthulu always wins.
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Read my story at:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/515293.page#5420356
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2012/04/22 06:19:10
Subject: Re:The Flood vs. the Reapers
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Amaya wrote:Cthulu always wins.
It's Cthulhu...and yes, in the long run, the Reapers will win...not only do they have complete mastery of mass effect physics and element zero technology, their energy sources and propulsion, like most of their technology, is well beyond the comprehension of either organics/synthetics. But the Flood will make them fight for their victory - as I've stated earlier, the Reaper ground forces are still vulnerable to assimilation; at that rate, the Reapers will have to almost constantly resort to orbital bombardment to defeat the Flood.
And Cthulhu doesn't always win; he can't be truly defeated, but he can't truly win either. The Elder Gods won't let that happen, and would sooner side with Humanity rather than let either the Outer Gods win or the Great Old Ones to return. It's not that the Elder Gods are 'good' in the Human sense; they care little for Humanity, but unlike the Outer Gods, have no desire to Humans killed, devoured, enslaved, and so on and so forth. They usually prefer to leave Humans and other mortals to fend for themselves, but should the Outer Gods or the Great Old Ones begin to assert their superiority, the Elder Gods usually intervene and kick ass.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/04/22 06:24:20
Subject: The Flood vs. the Reapers
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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More importantly, the Flood can't infect the reapers (Being, giant space robots and all) so their usual method of winning seems kind of moot XD
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2012/04/22 06:29:28
Subject: The Flood vs. the Reapers
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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LordofHats wrote:More importantly, the Flood can't infect the reapers (Being, giant space robots and all) so their usual method of winning seems kind of moot XD
But if the Reaper ground forces - husks and so forth - are infected/assimilated, not to mention Flood being immune to indoctrination (unless the Reapers indoctrinate the Gravemind) means that the usual Reaper method of winning is also moot. It's going to go down to a series of skrimishes and exchanges in space; not sure who'd win, as the Flood can use Covenant technology.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/04/22 06:46:44
Subject: Re:The Flood vs. the Reapers
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Why do the Reapers use ground forces in the first place?
Surely they are powerful enough to just wipe out planets...
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Read my story at:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/515293.page#5420356
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2012/04/22 06:55:41
Subject: Re:The Flood vs. the Reapers
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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Amaya wrote:Why do the Reapers use ground forces in the first place?
Surely they are powerful enough to just wipe out planets...
Because Shepard needed something to punch
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Emperors Faithful wrote:
metallifan wrote:Maybe it's not the ROFLSTOMP that Americans are used to...
Best summary of foeign policy. Ever.
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2012/04/22 06:56:14
Subject: Re:The Flood vs. the Reapers
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Amaya wrote:Why do the Reapers use ground forces in the first place?
Surely they are powerful enough to just wipe out planets...
Because the purpose of the Cycle of Extinction isn't to wipe out life, but to preserve it in the long run. Every 50,000 years, the Reapers harvest advanced organic civilizations before they can create synthetic life, preserving their racial consciousness in Reaper form; this also opens room for the primitive organic civilizations that are spared to grow and flourish (even if their technology is still based on Reaper technology), only to be harvested in their turn. This way, organic life continues to flourish and thrive in a galaxy not ruined by the fighting between organics and synthetics. The only reason the Geth exist is because the Cycle is overdue, the Cycle should have come to an end in 1CE - this would leave only the Turians, Humans, and Krogan unharvested since at the time, before the Rachni War, none of those races possessed FTL ability.
And the Reapers are not purely machine - they're bodies are mechanical, but the consciousness that drives each of them is organic. In my storyline, the Cycle is ended thanks to synthesis, meaning that the Reapers leave the galaxy to explore the universe and find a new purpose since the Cycle is useless, organic and synthetic life are one, so no more fighting between the two can happen.
Each species would have several million people harvested and processed to create a Reaper capital ship. Those of the species left afterwards would then be used to create Reaper destroyers. If the species is unsuitable for Reaperification or lack the population, then they are either wiped out or enslaved Collector style. Note that only un-huskified individuals can be used for Reaperification - husks have undergone extensive genetic rewrite and would obviously not be suitable.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/04/22 07:44:35
Subject: Re:The Flood vs. the Reapers
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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DA's Forever wrote:Amaya wrote:Why do the Reapers use ground forces in the first place?
Surely they are powerful enough to just wipe out planets...
Because Shepard needed something to punch
I like this answer 
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2012/04/22 07:47:16
Subject: Re:The Flood vs. the Reapers
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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LordofHats wrote:DA's Forever wrote:Amaya wrote:Why do the Reapers use ground forces in the first place?
Surely they are powerful enough to just wipe out planets...
Because Shepard needed something to punch
I like this answer
Makes sense to me! 
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Emperors Faithful wrote:
metallifan wrote:Maybe it's not the ROFLSTOMP that Americans are used to...
Best summary of foeign policy. Ever.
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2012/04/22 08:03:42
Subject: Re:The Flood vs. the Reapers
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
On your roof with a laptop
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The Reapers.
The ability to have reapers just fall from space to help ground battles. Superior firepower. And with the issue of reaper troops (husks) being infcted, they are just pretty much dessicated skin with machines, they are probably lack enough organic parts and in the right place to be infected. Also, if a flood does infect a husk, the husk's indoctrination would likely kick in and overwhelm the flood.
Remember, the flood were killed by some grumpy aliens, a bunch of humans and master chief, while the reapers were just about killed by all the sentient taces working together.
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2012/04/22 12:18:24
Subject: Re:The Flood vs. the Reapers
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Slashing Veteran Sword Bretheren
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Amaya wrote:Why do the Reapers use ground forces in the first place?
Surely they are powerful enough to just wipe out planets...
Because Reapers can't fit in small buildings and they can't drag people to be indoctrinated.
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Tali'Zorah: I appreciate what you're doing here, Shepard.
Commander Shepard: Well, I care deeply about the quarian people.
Tali'Zorah: It's good to be back on the Normandy.
Commander Shepard: Let me know if it's too quiet for you to sleep, and I'll find you someplace louder.
Tali'Zorah: Hmm.
Garrus Vakarian: Uh, I was there when you two had your thing, remember? Just get a room and work it out. |
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2012/04/22 12:57:05
Subject: Re:The Flood vs. the Reapers
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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black templar wrote:Amaya wrote:Why do the Reapers use ground forces in the first place?
Surely they are powerful enough to just wipe out planets...
Because Reapers can't fit in small buildings and they can't drag people to be indoctrinated.
Or to be harvested and reaperified, for that matter...
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/04/22 13:44:26
Subject: The Flood vs. the Reapers
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Committed Chaos Cult Marine
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Ok Ill admit voting before reading the thread.
From what I remember of Halo 3, the flood is just some mass of goo that trys to kill you.
The reapers on the other hand have massive friggin lasers which pretty much vaporise/kill anything it touches.
Sorry but Reapers are more badass than the Flood, so they insta-win.
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2012/07/01 08:19:50
Subject: Re:[Poll]The Flood vs. the Reapers
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Flood, easily. You guys are all pretty dumb
Reapers are stated as both organic and unorganic, be it grey goo or not. The flood can corrupt any and all organic and sentient life.
The Reapers are meant to destroy, the flood however are meant to corrupt and consume. Since we have all the different races in between the Reapers will be facing the whole galaxy infected with flood. Turian, Asari, Humans, Krogans, Rachni, Covenant, you name it. In the Halo vs Mass Effect topic we thoroughly discussed how Halo vessels would absolutely decimate any fleet in ME. One infected Covenant Supercarrier and the Reapers are all done. 27 miles long, shields and armour that take shots in the gigatons without a scratch, weapons that hit with gigatons of force. Hell, a flood infected supercarrier would be able to simply ram through a fleet of Reapers and they won't be able to put a dent in it.
Now we get to gravemind. Listen, there is no way in hell a Reaper is taking over a gravemind. Ever. Graveminds are UNIVERSAL ''telepaths'' that contain the knowledge of eternity. They can communicate across entire galaxies. Graveminds can corrupt any artificial being like it did with Cortana. If anything, the gravemind would make the Reapers its slave in a matter of seconds. Reapers cannot indoctrinate something that is basically the mental embodiment of quintillions of minds over endless time. Also, indoctrination is a joke. It takes forever and the Reaper basically needs to sit next to you to do it at all. Why don't Reapers just indoctrinate Shepard? Because indoctrination is ass.
The flood would wreck them
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2012/07/01 08:40:50
Subject: [Poll]The Flood vs. the Reapers
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Talk about thread necromancy...
And Reapers aren't semi-organic. They're purely synthetic. Their consciousness is organic, based on data recovered by breaking down millions of individuals at at the atomic level.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/07/01 10:01:58
Subject: Re:[Poll]The Flood vs. the Reapers
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Et In Arcadia Ego
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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