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Ok, here is what i have. I think it is a pretty well rounded list with a bit of AT in there just in case. got a game vs BA on Sunday and the a little firednly tourny in a few weeks.....

opinions and advice very much welcome



OverLord - Weave, Res Orb, Scythe, Tachyon Arrow - 165

Lord - Res Orb - 65
DestrucTek - Pulse, Lance - 35
StormTek - Staff, Field - 35

5 Warriors - Pulsetek, Ghost Ark - 180
10 Warriors - Lord - 130
10 Warriors - 130
10 Immortals (Tesla) - OverLord & StromTek - 170

8 Scarabs - 120
4 Destroyer (1 Heavy) - 180

Anni Barge - 90
Anni Barge - 90
2 Spyders - Fab Claw Array - 110

Total = 1500



My guess is that the Immortal will get charges as they pose a major anti-infantry threat. hopefully the mix of OverLord and Lightnign Field will help to mitigate that a little.

Is the Stormtek worth taking or should i just take a second LanceTek instead?

Why are you not following the 5 Barge Principle?

Because i only have 2 barges. I have a third that i have not had chance to build yet.

Once that is up and running i will most likely run 2 Anni and 1 CCB.

Although i have made up an apoc formation which uses 3-8 barges

I like it.. you will have to let me know how the tesla Immortals go.. i have not used alot of tesla Carbine stuff just because i like gauss better.. but i can see how rolling 10 dice you will prob get some sixes out of that to help add up the hits. good thing about the gauss blasters is it will keep alot of standard SM from getting armor saves pluss with a st 5 your looking at a 3+ to wound. so keep me posted on those immortals other then that looks like a good decent strong list Praxiss

Well the tesla Carbien is the same S as the Gauss Blaster (so still wounding marines on a 3+). Plus there is the bonus of 2 extra hit every time you roll a 6. So potentially (although it would never happen) they can fire off 30 S5 hits at 24" per turn.

I can see where you're coming from, i tend to prefer Gauss mostly due to the fact that they can damage vehicles as well so they are more versatile. but by taking Tesla I can save points by not needing a Phaeron. We'll see how it goes.

NB: Gauss Blaster wont stop SMs from getting saves as they are AP4.


Anyway, what do you think about the crypteks? Worth mixing it up or should i max out on lances?

i'm going to play a 1250 game tonight and i'm going to throw in a Ctan Shard just for fun.. i think it will be hard to kill at a 1250 level game. hehe

C'tan shards are beast, especially the terrain C'tan, he should do well in that points level unless you're up against DE or Space Wolves of course!

yes Gauss blasters would stop Standard SM from getting a armor save.. big rule book says Pg 20 (right side of page first bullet) " if the weapon's Armour Piercing value is equal to or lower than the models armour save then it is sufficiently powerful to punch straight through the armour and the target gets no armour save at all. The armour is ineffective against the shot. " the key word is "equal" so gauss blaster is AP 4.. SM Sv is 4.. that is equal there for no armour save allowed. when i first started playing 40k i had been playing this all wrong.. but once i found this.. it changed alot of how i was playing the game.

I think mixing up the crypteks is a good thing.. i really like the storm tek.. thats one model that gets 4 dice.. glance on a 2-5 and a pen on 6 regardless of vehicle AV value. so thats one model that has a really good chance of taking out a land raider in one shot if the dice roll good. and at 35 points pluss " lightning field " you bet i'll take one ever time.


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right now my Ctan shard has "Swarm of spirit dust " and "Gaze of Death"

spirit dust gives me assault and defensive grenades and stealth special rule.. and that will give me 3+ cover save

Gaze of Death .. basical gives me the ability to repair wounds on him and the wounds caused by this allows no armour save so we will see if this is a good combo.

trick will be to get him into combat with out getting all shoot up before hand.

Sm have a 3+ armour save.

yeah your right .. well i guess i was thinking of Scout squad.. but yeah i see now that Tact squad has 3+ .. i'd be intrested in seeing what 10 tesla immortals will do.. the only tesla i run is the annihilation barge or whats on the Doom scythe. so def keep me posted on how those guys preform. i'm excited about May 5th coming round.. second wave of necron models .. whoo hooo !!

This list is very inefficient:

Overlord: Use the points from the arrow to convert the weave into a phase shifter. 3++ is more valuable on an independent character than 2+.

Combine the warriors on foot into a single large squad to make max use of the lord's orb.

Stormtek should be in a squad that can shoot vehicles. Tesla Immortals should not shoot vehicles. If you like that squad to have anti-tank capability, leave them with gauss blasters and upgrade the overlord to phaeron for relentless. If you keep the tesla, you are wasting the stormtek.

Scarabs should be a full squad if you have the models

Destroyers are no good in this edition. Get something else, e.g. proxy one for a destroyer lord or spyder. Or, use the points to buy a second overlord and another pulsetek.

Even with these changes, this is not a strong list, but I suspect you are model-limited.

Sorry guys about the arrow mixup. The errata restricted time's arrow to non-vehicle models, not tachyon arrow.

Yeah i am limited in models (only 3 wraiths, no lychguard/triarch)


Tachyon Arrow can't affect vehicles?!?!?! So whats the point in it being S10 Ap1 then?

Edit: you are thinking of Time's Arrow, the C'Tan power

guess i'm missing it.. necrontyr.. i'm not seeing where they changed the tachyon arrow.. ? what page of the errita ?

While I very much don't remember the arrow being FAQ'd against vehicles, in my experience it isn't worth it. It'd be fine if it was more than one use, but its not, and seeing as how in cc your overlord is the only real threat(to, say, BA) they will target him with PF, power weapons etc, so I agree that forgoing the weave and arrow for phase shifter would be MUCH more effective use of points.

well yeah i don't take the arrow any ways but i was like WTF? when did that get nerfed.. yeah i would have to agree.. but if you can't get the phase shifter for points.. that at lease take weave..

Yeah it works against vehicles its just not very effective.

On another note switch your 4 destroyers to 3 heavy destroyers. Normal destroyers are some of the worst units in the codex for their points cost. Heavy Destroyers are much better and actually fill a gap in necron army lists unlike regular destroyers which just add more 24" shooting but very inefficiently.

I might also drop a cryptek to try to fit a 3rd spyder in, then split your scarabs into 2 groups of 4. Buffing them up to 7 with 1 spawn is better than having one giant group as it lets you attack different targets. It also is a safety net for when one squad gets blasted away the spyders can still spawn into the second group.

No more Spyder models.

i will take your advice on the destroyers though. Keep the suggestions coming.

Yeah this is good stuff here.. makes me want to double check what i'm running see if i can improve on my roster building... i agree keep it coming lol.

The 5 Barge Principle is definitley where it's at, make sure you run it if you get the chance

ok so how can you field 5 annihilation barge when your only allowed to field 3 heavys?

I think they mean three ani's and two ccbs.

For my two cents if you used to play necrons you probably have lots of warriors, right? I've been, very successfully, running two units of 12 warriors + despairtek + pulsetek + overlord (orb/mss/ps/ws). Shockingly as long as you stay out of cc, or at least get into it with a unit you know you can clobber, this unit can dish out the fire power and take the hits. DS in close and spray. The despairtek has a abysil staff that's pretty handy and, hopefully, you get 24 S4 shots and a single lascannonlite shot from the pulsetek. The only times I've had an issue was when I DS into a building and another time I got to close to some grey hunters with a super HQ.

I would love to run the 5 Barge list.....got some spare barges i can borrow?

In my limited number of games i have never failed to be impressed with the Anni Barge tbh. I just love 'em.

Sorry about the confusion again. When I read the update, I construed the errata to be about the tachyon arrow, not the shard's power "time's arrow".

It seems to me if you want the arrow on an overlord in a CCB, then why not take Anrakyr? He gets it for free, as well as the warscythe and a cool power to mess with vehicles. He is also an overlord, so you keep the court. An overlord with scythe and arrow would be 90+10+30=130 vs 165 for Anrakyr, so you are paying just 35 pts for mind in the machine, the pyrrhian immortals, furious charge, and counter-attack. The combo of the last two is rather nasty, depending on how you read the rules.

When i get a CCB built i plan on trying out Anrakyr, especially in apoc games where my friend likes to bring his Warhound.

I'd love to play a massve apoc game with Orikan, Imhotek and Anrakyr - special rules a-go-go!!

Praxiss wrote:I would love to run the 5 Barge list.....got some spare barges i can borrow?

In my limited number of games i have never failed to be impressed with the Anni Barge tbh. I just love 'em.

I'll ask at my FLGS for you

What ever happened to your iron warriors?

On Hold. I had shelved my 'crons for a couple of years as everythgin i wanted was expensive, annoyign metal. Now that the new 'dex is out i fancied dusting them off.

Plus i have over 7k of IW now so the only things i want to get tend to be superheavies, big conversion jobs for FW.

Cool, I'm not a fan of the new necrons but an army I'd love to do would be a scythe army, I wrote a list the other day and it had 7 scythes in it but i want to see what the models look like when they come out!

meh, looking forward to seeing them but not really fussed abotu having any. Necrons are tough enough that they can footslog pretty well in most games.

In bigger (apoc) games i plan to just take a couple of monoliths and use the now unlimited teleport to move stuff into position faster.

Praxiss wrote:meh, looking forward to seeing them but not really fussed abotu having any. Necrons are tough enough that they can footslog pretty well in most games.

In bigger (apoc) games i plan to just take a couple of monoliths and use the now unlimited teleport to move stuff into position faster.

In all seriousness, the 5 barge principle is where it's at, make sure you also take some crypteks with Eldritch lance as Necrons really need some special weaponry

i might be able to buy some more brages around July (birthday) but TBH, I am thinking of saving up for a Pylon as well (also have a FW Tomb Stalker to build).


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Ok, back OT.

if my Immortals are running Gauss it it worth putting an OverLord with them? Wouldn't a normal Lord with res Orb do much the same?

i coudl then move the OverLord to the 20 block of Warriors and make them all Relentless......assuming i can find 20 point from somewhere for Phaeron.