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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/24 14:40:46
Subject: 1750 Thunderwolf Cavalry theme list
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Hey guys, I'm working on a new project : wolves. I really felt in love with the new GW models, so here the list :
HQ :
Wolf Lord : thunderwolf, runic armour, stormshield, frost blade, tail, necklace, saga of warrior born 255 pts
Elite :
4 Wolf Guard : 4 combi-melta, 4 Powerfists 172 pts
Iron priest : thunderwolf, tail, necklace, 4 cyberwolves 170 pts
Troops :
5 Grey Hunters : Melta, Standard Razorback TL Lascanon 165 pts
5 Grey Hunters : Melta, Standard Razorback TL Lascanon 165 pts
5 Grey Hunters : Melta, Standard Razorback TL Lascanon 165 pts
5 Grey Hunters : Melta, Standard Razorback TL Lascanon 165 pts
Fast Attack :
3 TWC : Thunderhammer/Stormshield, Stormshield, Meltabombs 245 pts
3 TWC : Thunderhammer/Stormshield, Stormshield, Meltabombs 245 pts
Total : 1747 pts
I know it's not the most competitive list at all, but with this theme, it's 3 massive threats (both TWC units and Wolf Lord + Iron priest) backed up by the GH.
What do you think guys?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/24 15:14:06
Subject: 1750 Thunderwolf Cavalry theme list
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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I quite like it actually!
Now for some nitpicking.
1) The Wolf Guard aren't helping you much in this set up. I would recommend dropping them and using their points to grab another Troop choice.
2) Drop the Standards from the Grey hunter Packs. The idea behind lists like this is to allow the unit to fold in combat to allow either the rest of the army to shoot whatever it is to death or to "speed bump" deathstars so they don't steamroll your army.
3) I would prefer Bear on the Lord as he's going to be doing a lot of heavy lifting and with the Prevalence of Grey Knights out there, you want him to not be instagibbed by that one Halberd that gets through.
Otherwise, I like it!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/24 16:08:19
Subject: Re:1750 Thunderwolf Cavalry theme list
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2) Drop the Standards from the Grey hunter Packs. The idea behind lists like this is to allow the unit to fold in combat to allow either the rest of the army to shoot whatever it is to death or to "speed bump" deathstars so they don't steamroll your army.
What you say make sense actually, let's say I shifted from big GH hunter in rhino to this set up because I felt that I needed fire support (and I don't want to field Long Fang, something about the fluff of my Lord  ).
3) I would prefer Bear on the Lord as he's going to be doing a lot of heavy lifting and with the Prevalence of Grey Knights out there, you want him to not be instagibbed by that one Halberd that gets through.
It's true that I didn't think about those GK that seems to grow everywhere. Good point.
I had an other Idea behind my head, of something like "nowhere is safe for you" list :
Let's say the same list, just without Wolf Guard and Standard but with 2*5 Scouts : 1 melta, all with meltabombs. It feels pretty nice with the TWC that can reach you pretty easely as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/24 16:21:10
Subject: 1750 Thunderwolf Cavalry theme list
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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I actually really dig the idea of the Wolf Scouts. It will help even more with mitigating the effect of heavy shooting armies as you'll push them forward into the maws of your Thunderwolves. That's pretty much how I use them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/24 16:34:05
Subject: 1750 Thunderwolf Cavalry theme list
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Cultist of Nurgle with Open Sores
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Double check the points costs for the gear for your Wolf Lord as well - I run a similar build (Mount, Claw, SS, Bear, Runic Armor, Bombs) and that costs 255.
I recently changed to the Wolf Claw from the Frost Blade after having been informed that statistically, the reroll for hits or wounds will almost always be better than having a static Str6 on your Lord.
For the rest of the list, I think it looks pretty solid, but I would be hard-pressed to run a list without a Rune Priest anymore; they're simply just too useful.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/24 17:56:55
Subject: Re:1750 Thunderwolf Cavalry theme list
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Your lord doesn't really need the WTN, he's going to hit most everything you come up against with his WS6 anyways. It is only ten points, but that could get you another GH pack, or another thunderwolf.
Like AreTwo, I found the WC to produce better results, and it kind of negates the necklace if you choose to re-roll to hits. Statistically you kill more with it, and that's obvious. Although, the frost blade does look WAY cooler!!
Your GH packs should be bare bones in those Laserbacks, a melta will work just fine. Giving them a WG is kind of redundant, since they will be sitting in the vehicle that will be shooting the gak out of high priority targets. The guys inside don't have a fire point to use. They will die relatively quickly in CC, but they have to crack the tank first.
I would also recommend Saga of the Bear for you lord, your 250+ point model will live longer this way.
You could use the points from the WG to add a fourth wolf to each of the TWC packs, and still keep them ready for wound allocation shenanigans.
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Can you hear the call of the North Star?
Feel its longing in your heart
This bond is eternal sworn through blood
At the end we will stand as one!
Even if the daylight dies
Our horde marches on and on
If we should fall down to the ground
We'll rise again and never give up!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 11:20:16
Subject: Re:1750 Thunderwolf Cavalry theme list
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Double check the points costs for the gear for your Wolf Lord as well - I run a similar build (Mount, Claw, SS, Bear, Runic Armor, Bombs) and that costs 255.
Maybe because in the last FAQ they said that the Frost blade is only 10 its now for the Wolf Lord.
So I got two options :
Here the first list :
HQ :
Wolf Lord : thunderwolf, runic armour, stormshield, frost blade, tail, necklace, saga of the bear 255 pts
Elite :
Iron priest : thunderwolf, tail, necklace, 4 cyberwolves 170 pts
5 Scouts : 1 Melta, 5 Meltabombs 110 pts
5 Scouts : 1 Melta, 5 Meltabombs 110 pts
Troops :
5 Grey Hunters : Melta Razorback TL Lascanon 155 pts
5 Grey Hunters : Melta Razorback TL Lascanon 155 pts
5 Grey Hunters : Melta Razorback TL Lascanon 155 pts
5 Grey Hunters : Melta Razorback TL Lascanon 155 pts
Fast Attack :
3 TWC : Thunderhammer/Stormshield, Stormshield 240 pts
3 TWC : Thunderhammer/Stormshield, Stormshield 240 pts
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HQ :
Wolf Lord : thunderwolf, runic armour, stormshield, frost blade, tail, necklace, saga of the bear 255 pts
Elite :
Iron priest : thunderwolf, tail, necklace, 4 cyberwolves 170 pts
Troops :
5 Grey Hunters : Melta Razorback TL Lascanon 155 pts
5 Grey Hunters : Melta Razorback TL Lascanon 155 pts
5 Grey Hunters : Melta Razorback TL Lascanon 155 pts
5 Grey Hunters : Melta Razorback TL Lascanon 155 pts
Fast Attack :
4 TWC : Thunderhammer/Stormshield, Stormshield, Meltabomb 295 pts
4 TWC : Thunderhammer/Stormshield, Stormshield, Meltabomb 295 pts
14 Fenrisian Wolves : 112 pts
I prefer the first one actually, but what do you think?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 11:26:05
Subject: Re:1750 Thunderwolf Cavalry theme list
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Option A, hands down
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/25 12:11:05
Subject: Re:1750 Thunderwolf Cavalry theme list
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Cultist of Nurgle with Open Sores
Ohio
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isifos wrote:
Maybe because in the last FAQ they said that the Frost blade is only 10 its now for the Wolf Lord.
The last FAQ added the 10 point frost blade to the 5th bullet point, which are the weapon options for Terminator Armor.
Since you cannot take both Terminator Armor AND a Thunderwolf Mount, you are required to buy wargear from the "Power Armor" options list.
Essentially, your Wolf Lord is buying TDA weapon options for cheaper without paying for Terminator Armor.
isifos wrote:
Wolf Lord : thunderwolf, runic armour, stormshield, frost blade, tail, necklace, saga of the bear 255 pts
This setup would actually cost you 270 points instead.
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