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Imotek

Orikan

Pulsetek
Chronotek
Lord + WS+orb+2+ armor

5 lychguard+sword and board

5 warriors
5 warriors
5 immortals

6 wraiths+ 3 whips+ 1 pistol
6 wraiths+ 3 whips+ 1 pistol
10 scarabs

3 spyders+ gloom
monolith

~= 2000 points

Sorry for lack of details, but throwing this idea up before I go to bed. night fighting provides me tactical coverage and advantage during the beg of the game. I will be scarab farming for at least 2 turns before they take real shots.

idea if lord goes with lychguard, along with orikan for another scary melee squad. Wraiths/lychguard/scarab march up table eating things. Monolith is used for cover, and for teleporting troops, essentially tactical flexibility. This list I just tossed together in a few mins, let me know what you think would kick my ass. Because that is what I am most worried about, tell me the flaws in the list that you think would defeat this list. Obviously it has almost no shooting, but I am not worried about that with imotek, and huge amount of assaulty goodness

...This is the funniest thing I've seen all day.

I'm not very familiar with the Necron Codex, but from what I do know you should be set if you keep the Troops behind the assault troops and use them to mop stuff up after the fact.

Off the top of my head, I suspect you'll have trouble dealing with speedier armies, especially Eldar/Dark Eldar (who can load everyone into Fast Skimmers); I'd advise coming up with a bit more firepower from somewhere. Preferably ranged anti-tank.

In all honesty it could actually be competitive if I play test it a tad then edit it accordingly. Yes my troops would hide Anomander, and yeah I am trying to shave some points for an A-barge so I have a little anti transport, or a few crypteks with lances to pop tanks. I dont know where I would drop the points though :/ Maybe 1 scarab and 1 spyder. Plus..1 wraith..Would give me enough for an A-barge.

Any other opinions out there?

As you said yourself, it's not very shooty and that's what Necrons do best.

I think that single Monolith is begging for trouble too. I also do not think that the Lord is worth it, how much that Lord costing for a single wound model? Not exactly awesome in combat either.

It's not bad, I would try and ditch the Monolith and invest in more Lanceteks for anti tank and maybe ditch the Lychguard and Lord, add more Wraiths if you like and more Spyders, super Scarab swarm should eat multiple vehicles.

Thank you for your input mercer.

The monolith I feel gives me the ability to redeploy my troops, my lychguard, along with a very tough vehicle to take down at range due to night fight, and one hard to kill close up due to the melee focus of my army.

Today I have been playing with the numbers and yeah the lord is really expensive for only a 1 wound model...I have him there to make the lychguard much more durable. Granted he only does so with the orb, and slightly more effective in melee with a warscythe...But honestly now I like the idea of dropping him...Transforming the lychguard to praetorians, and using the extra points elsewhere.

Though as a result, orikan has no squad to join to go hit things in melee, as he will slow down the praetorians. Maybe he will be dropped for a ctan...but then I lose the first turn power.

I am refraining pooling points to get mass lanceteks due to the fact I am relying on my troops to hide, or not be in LOS of alot of stuff, if a lancetek joins them, I will have the squads they join exposed. Coupled with the fact that I am trying to pull mass night fight. Long range shooting is hindered on my side also. How can I add more wraiths..I already have my FA filled out lol, and scarabs are needed for this list.

good point about the Wraiths!

I've actually posted a list very similar to this one recently, you might be able to draw a bit more inspiration from it.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/443977.page#4169758

That being said, I like the idea behind Necron assault lists, I'd suggest a VoDtek to get the lychguard right into the enemy quickly.
That being said, your enemies will have a harder time moving due to Orikan's temporal snares...thats sneaky

hah thanks mercer, I appreciateyour input though. So keep it coming

I actually like alot of your lists mercer, your necron list is very well rounded and has an answer to everything. But I wanted to try a bit more of a sneaky version of crons. Which i think is partially done here, I am currently debating dropping orikan for a Dlord with an orb. then transforming my lychguard to praetorians w pistols/swords to tear up everything. As that unit honestly can kill most things on the charge. tanks, MCs, troops, just not super good melee units.

iguy, i will take a look at your list. I am trying to stay away from veilteks because I have played daemons and I am honestly just done with the scatter die lol. Plus the unit is so expensive, losing them to a bad deep strike is too risky in my list.

Indeed I do like orikans ability that first turn, but first turn gimmicks only get you so far, so I am trying to decrease the gimmickyness of this list and increase its staying power, and damage output. Any suggestions?

You seen my latest Necron list with the double CCB's, double Wraiths and triple Anni Barges?

A D-Lord would go nicely with the Preatorians. Take a weave so the Lord can take krak missiles and ap3 shots etc.

I was actually about to say what Mercer just said.
A destroyer lord could tag along with your wraiths or praetorians (if you choose to run them)
You could drop the regular lord to start working towards affording it.
I've also heard, I cant remember where exactly, that wraith units of 6 tend to overkill, you might be able to shave one model off each squad, and still have it be plenty effective, giving you...probably enough for a destroyer lord.

Granted, with that in place, I think you have a ton of point sunk into your HQ's

Mk well here is a rough draft of a newer list without orikan due to his lack of utility after turn 1( even though he can morph into a CC monster if stars align)

Imotek
D lord + ws+ MSS+ orb
pulsetek
chronotek

5 praetorians+ pistols/blades

5 immortals
5 warriors
5 warriors

9 scarabs
6 wraiths+ 3 whips+ 1 pistol
6 wraiths+ 3 whips + 1 pistol

monolith
3 spyders+ prism

This puts me at 1920, I honestly almost want to fit in a A barge by dropping MSS off my lord then adding an A barge. Or adding more troops. i feel like my melee presence is strong enough, along with my speed. I have 3 jump infantry squads, one big beast squad running straight into the enemy under the cover of night. I dont think I need any more melee strength. I just need a little more shooting for stuff I cant catch with melee...either lanceteks...barge, scythes...hmm...ideas?

iguy, at this point I think I will keep them at 6 wraiths, if i test it out and see that 6 is excessive I would probably drop 1 from each squad which is 70 points, which I can use to beef up my troops with, or add more firepower...

Also..how would you guys feel about a 5 man squad of flayed ones outflanking?

I think dropping the monolith is a good idea.

1 vehicle armies rarely work in today's 40k.

More spiders, another pulsetek (Imotek can have a court right?) and possibly another scoring unit.

iGuy91 wrote:
I've also heard, I cant remember where exactly, that wraith units of 6 tend to overkill, you might be able to shave one model off each squad, and still have it be plenty effective, giving you...probably enough for a destroyer lord.

I've used six Wraiths and five Wraiths. TBH the difference isn't all that much, just six last longer than five. If you've got points needed else where, then fine drop them down to five. If you don't need points to be else where then max out the Wraiths, baby

Clauss, the D-Lord needs a weave. It's very important.

I am not sure on the min size squads of troops. What you doing with these?

Soldado, I completely understand your view that 1 vehicle armies usually do not work because of several reason. Of which you may say, it is a free killpoint, its an easy target for your anti tank guns, and that doesnt fit. But I find in this list, it actually helps more than it hurts. For a few reasons, I would argue that it can/will draw some of the anti tank firepower that is str 8 or greater, away from my wraiths. Which will allow my assault to function much better, so if it acts as a lightning rod for large guns, i am fine with that because that is the purpose of it. Another safety net is that any gun that would attempt to hit the monolith at range will most likely be shooting through night fight due to imotek. This essentially keeps the monolith safe from long range guns, and in all honesty few long range guns will penetrate the monolith. Mostly just lascannons which are rarely fielded anymore outside of razors, vindicators, and tau. but in all honesty, I would be surprised if it was destroyed at range. Which actually just gave me another idea, to give a spyder the fabricator claw array to repair my monolith if it ever get immobilized....
Also if my opponent wants to destroy the monolith with melta he will either have to go throough my wraiths/praetorians/scarabs first, which is no easy task. Or be killed by them next turn. If you could provide detailed reason as why it is a detriment to this list I would be happy to hear those things because I would like to make this list as good as possible.

Addendum for mercer: In this list if I had 70 points on top of the 80..that gives me 150 pts to play with, which is actually alot...I could almost fit 5 lychguard...which would give imotek a place to chill..but then i have so many points invested in assaulting units...but that does sound scary lol....12 wraiths, scarab swarms, 5 lychguard, 5 praetoirs+ d lord

mercer wrote:

iGuy91 wrote:
I've also heard, I cant remember where exactly, that wraith units of 6 tend to overkill, you might be able to shave one model off each squad, and still have it be plenty effective, giving you...probably enough for a destroyer lord.

I've used six Wraiths and five Wraiths. TBH the difference isn't all that much, just six last longer than five. If you've got points needed else where, then fine drop them down to five. If you don't need points to be else where then max out the Wraiths, baby

Word, Word

But yeah, that new list looks really good. I would keep the MSS however, and use the remaining points to buff up your immortals

The most interesting necron assault lists I've seen utilize paired MSS lords with necron warrior units in ghost arks. Do they ever stay in combat and whittle anything down.

I don't really understand the one pulsetek. I also don't really understand Orkian's place in the list. My last bit of confusion is about how you intend to de-mech an opponent to a degree where you will have enough targets for your assault units. You really don't want to be busting transports in assault unless you are doing it in a very well coordinated way.