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I've been thinking about starting a Warhammer 40k army (mostly because it is more popular than WHFB in my area, unfortunatly), but I just don't like any of the models or the concepts. I think Orks in space is stupid, I think Elves in space is stupider, and I think Space Marines are just too cartoony. I hate the Xenomorph (which the Tyranids are a rip-off of), and the Tau models seem wierd to me. I do not have a hatred for Science Fiction in general however, I love the Original Trilogy of Star Wars (but don't get me started ont he precraps) but I love the Predator and the AVP franchises, easily my most favorite Sci-Fi setting.

So, if I were to pick up a Codex to represent the Predators http://aliens.wikia.com/wiki/Yautja which one would yo recomend?

I've thought about Dark Eldar, but T3 army wide really doesn't suit the Yautja as they are capable of brushing of multiple gunshot wounds and other injuries which would cripple a girly elf. I don't know much about the Tau, would their rules be a better fit for the Yautja?

Space Wolves perhaps, since they have acute senses, counter attack, and T4 with the usual power armor save. Tau would be worse than Dark Eldar since they're T3 with the exception of battle suits and are more of a mobile shooting force.

Do they have any stealthy units? I was also looking at the SC Lukas the Trickster and he seemed interesting and fitting because of his bomb which he detonates upon death. Is this a possible army-wide ability?

SouthlandLizardman wrote:I've been thinking about starting a Warhammer 40k army (mostly because it is more popular than WHFB in my area, unfortunatly), but I just don't like any of the models or the concepts. I think Orks in space is stupid, I think Elves in space is stupider, and I think Space Marines are just too cartoony. I hate the Xenomorph (which the Tyranids are a rip-off of), and the Tau models seem wierd to me. I do not have a hatred for Science Fiction in general however, I love the Original Trilogy of Star Wars (but don't get me started ont he precraps) but I love the Predator and the AVP franchises, easily my most favorite Sci-Fi setting.

So, if I were to pick up a Codex to represent the Predators http://aliens.wikia.com/wiki/Yautja which one would yo recomend?

I've thought about Dark Eldar, but T3 army wide really doesn't suit the Yautja as they are capable of brushing of multiple gunshot wounds and other injuries which would cripple a girly elf. I don't know much about the Tau, would their rules be a better fit for the Yautja?

I'm going to be rather honest here.

There is no army that would be anywhere near a decent fit for Yautja in 40k. Partly because Yautja don't really operate as an army, and partly because a full force of them would be absolutely brutal.

The best way I have seen to represent them would be in "old" Necromunda using a 1000-credit Malcadon, which gets close to how scary a single Hunter type would be. But in 40k proper? It just won't work very well, sorry.

SouthlandLizardman wrote:Do they have any stealthy units? I was also looking at the SC Lukas the Trickster and he seemed interesting and fitting because of his bomb which he detonates upon death. Is this a possible army-wide ability?

No army has the kind of stealth units you would be looking for (Maybe Tau stealthsuits not sure) Lukas' ability is for him only. I won't begin tot ell you how absurd it would be if everyone had it.
Very few armies match what you're looking for really...
Have you looked at Necrons or Guardsmen? You didn't mention them in your OP...

Tau Ronin Stealth Team

purplefood wrote:
No army has the kind of stealth units you would be looking for (Maybe Tau stealthsuits not sure) Lukas' ability is for him only. I won't begin tot ell you how absurd it would be if everyone had it.
Very few armies match what you're looking for really...
Have you looked at Necrons or Guardsmen? You didn't mention them in your OP...

TBH i don't know much about Necrons, what do they play like? I quickly ruled IG out because of their heavy usage of Vehicles like Tanks and such, something the Predators do not use.
Is there any fan-made sourcebook for the Predators? I know that once was done for Star Wars, so I'm slightly curious...I've been looking everywhere but Google is not being my friend and when I put "Predators 40k" There seems to be a vehicle names the "Predator" which google incorrectly thinks I am looking for...

SouthlandLizardman wrote:

purplefood wrote:
No army has the kind of stealth units you would be looking for (Maybe Tau stealthsuits not sure) Lukas' ability is for him only. I won't begin tot ell you how absurd it would be if everyone had it.
Very few armies match what you're looking for really...
Have you looked at Necrons or Guardsmen? You didn't mention them in your OP...

TBH i don't know much about Necrons, what do they play like? I quickly rules IG out because of their heavy dependence on Vehicles like Tanks and such, something the Predators do not use.

Guard can play as footsloggers as well (each troop slot can have 1 5 -man command sqaud 5 10-man infantry squads and 5 6 - man support squads)

don't know much about new-crons though

Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:

SouthlandLizardman wrote:

purplefood wrote:
No army has the kind of stealth units you would be looking for (Maybe Tau stealthsuits not sure) Lukas' ability is for him only. I won't begin tot ell you how absurd it would be if everyone had it.
Very few armies match what you're looking for really...
Have you looked at Necrons or Guardsmen? You didn't mention them in your OP...

TBH i don't know much about Necrons, what do they play like? I quickly rules IG out because of their heavy dependence on Vehicles like Tanks and such, something the Predators do not use.

Guard can play as footsloggers as well (each troop slot can have 1 5 -man command sqaud 5 10-man infantry squads and 5 6 - man support squads)

don't know much about new-crons though

The main issue is that the Yautja really don't seem to fit the IG. From what I have heard, they bring alot of cheap troops, and If I can tell you anything about the Yautja, it is that they bring very very small groups of extremely elite warriors.

Apart from possibly some Grey Knights (Maybe a DC Inquisition army?) I don't think many codeci or builds fit what you're looking for...

You hate 40k, or more specifically just about every army in 40k, but you want a 40k army? Save yourself the time and effort and just keep trying to grow interest in WHFB. That's clearly the game that you want to play, and it would probably be best for everyone if you stuck with it.

SkaerKrow wrote:You hate 40k, or more specifically just about every army in 40k, but you want a 40k army? Save yourself the time and effort and just keep trying to grow interest in WHFB. That's clearly the game that you want to play, and it would probably be best for everyone if you stuck with it.

This is probably the best advice. I don't want to be a Debbie downer, but you aren't going to find anything really close to the predators, the closest might be DE, but that is still rather 'meh' as far as similarities go. If you like scifi but not the fantasy races, tyranids, tau, or SM, IG or Necrons might be an option. Fluffwise Necrons are tomb kings in space, but on the tabletop they are the most advanced faction technologically, with some good guns and cool rules, the IG on the other hand are a pretty conventional army, they have infantry, they have tanks, they have artillery, they have transports, they have aircraft/helicopters (Valkyries/Vendettas are close), and making one that looks futuristic isn't that hard, although you might have to avoid tanks and the like like the devil (olde timey tanks and vehicles that look to be about 1916-1940 aesthetically), unless you convert Tau or Eldar vehicles.

If you are interested in the IG look up conversions online, almost everything you can consider has been done at some point regarding the IG. Hell, I even found a few Master Chief conversions online using either Kasrkin or Cadians as a base.

Either this:
Maybe a GK Paladin force.

Hard hitting, Great armor save, multiple wounds.

The possibility for some great conversions.

Or this:

SkaerKrow wrote:You hate 40k, or more specifically just about every army in 40k, but you want a 40k army? Save yourself the time and effort and just keep trying to grow interest in WHFB. That's clearly the game that you want to play, and it would probably be best for everyone if you stuck with it.

I think it will be hard to find a good match for a predator army. Ruleswise Paladins would probably be best fit because of their saves etc. I also thought of a Raven Guard army where Shrike can infiltrate a terminator unit for stealthiness.

And I just gotta show you this: http://www.coolminiornot.com/257696?browseid=1387965

Other than that, just keep on expanding your WHFB army and try to get others interested in it. Or find another game like Warmachine or Infinity, maybe they have what you're looking for.

Stvafel wrote:I think it will be hard to find a good match for a predator army. Ruleswise Paladins would probably be best fit because of their saves etc. I also thought of a Raven Guard army where Shrike can infiltrate a terminator unit for stealthiness.

And I just gotta show you this: http://www.coolminiornot.com/257696?browseid=1387965

Other than that, just keep on expanding your WHFB army and try to get others interested in it. Or find another game like Warmachine or Infinity, maybe they have what you're looking for.

I have close to 10,000 points in Warhammer Fantasy Lizardmen and about 3,000 points of Dwarves and I have a small (well, kinda small) 1,000 point force of Skaven. I really feel as though my fantasy collection is complete, and there are only about four of us at my FLGS that play Fantasy, but 40k has easily has sixty or more players.

What would a typical list of Grey Knight Paladins look like? I've seen the game being played, and I quite like it. It's not that I hate the game, I hate the fluff. Compared to fantasy 40k is much simpler and from what I have seen requires less $$, is faster paced, and from what I have heard, it's just more fun.

I dont play GK so I dont know what they can or cant use. But they have armor saves+invulnerable saves, which is the toughest units you will find without going for MC's. Perhaps someone who has the GK codex can check if they can use lightning claws, those would be cool the represent the arm blades predators use. Otherwise you could go with Halberds since if I remember correctly, Predators use spears and I think you could modify the Halberds without much effort to look like spears.
You should ask for advice from experienced GK players, I'm just spitballing some ideas here.

A good reason to go with GK is that they are an elite army, this means you only have to convert like 10 paladins to look more like predators and you're looking at a couple of hundred points.
If you decide to go with GK and will convert them to predators make sure to put up a WIP Blog here on Dakka so we can see how they come along

If you're using predator proxies....Grey Knight Draigo wing.

So would the following list be close to a 1k list? I am not familair with 40k all of my insight comes from seeing games at my FLGS so please give me advice or suggestions on any changes you think I should make.

Draigo (Ancient/Elder Predator)

5 Paladins (Youngblood Predators)

5 Paladins (Youngblood Predators)

5 Terminators (Veteran Predators)

Storm Raven Gunship (Predator Spaceship/Fighter, not sure what model to use for this maybe a ForgeWorld Eldar or Tau Ship) AND/OR Some sort of Dreadnaught proxy, but again I have no idea what I would use for a model.

I am not familiar with 40k, would a force like this be close to 1,000 points? I would really like to know before hand as I would like to formulate a plan for all of the conversions I will be attempting.

Draigo, 2 squads of 5 paladins, 5 terminators, and a Stormraven are a lot more than 1k points.(It is about a 1500 point list.)

Basically at 1k points you will have room for Draigo, 2 paladin squads of 5 with various weapons, and that is about it.

Or you can get Draigo, 2 paladin squads of 5(Very few weapon options, No Psycannons), and a Vindicare assassin.

But that is about it for the paladin lists.

As a general rule, paying an extra 15 points for a paladin with 2 wounds over a terminator is a worthwhile investment.

Well that's wonderful news, I won't have to buy as many models =)
Thank all of you for your input it was extremely helpful. Look for a blog in the next couple of months to see what kind of Conversions I do for a Predator themed army

Actually, think about trying Eldar for a Predator-themed army. Once you get past the 'elves in space' silliness, Striking Scorpions look uncannily like the Predator.

I think necron are a good fit. You have hunters from hyperspace with the deathmarks, sneaky bastards targeting a single unit on the battlefield then relentless attacking them,
Lychguard are great cc peeps, vicious, wait for the perfect strike. Pyrrian eternals are pretty awesome, furious charge goodness. Stealth wise? Not much, except for the flayed ones.

AnomanderRake wrote:Actually, think about trying Eldar for a Predator-themed army. Once you get past the 'elves in space' silliness, Striking Scorpions look uncannily like the Predator.

Indeed they do, but their stats are not. And the beauty with Paladins here is that they can be taken as troops, right?And also a lot less models to convert.

Just an idea I had, maybe you could attach a Scatter Laser to the Paladins shoulder to represent the predators shoulder mounted weapon. Would'nt have any effect of course but it would look awesome!

Stvafel wrote:Just an idea I had, maybe you could attach a Scatter Laser to the Paladins shoulder to represent the predators shoulder mounted weapon. Would'nt have any effect of course but it would look awesome!

Or you could mount the Psycannon there for the ones with Psycannons.

Stvafel wrote:

AnomanderRake wrote:Actually, think about trying Eldar for a Predator-themed army. Once you get past the 'elves in space' silliness, Striking Scorpions look uncannily like the Predator.

Indeed they do, but their stats are not. And the beauty with Paladins here is that they can be taken as troops, right?And also a lot less models to convert.

Just an idea I had, maybe you could attach a Scatter Laser to the Paladins shoulder to represent the predators shoulder mounted weapon. Would'nt have any effect of course but it would look awesome!

I'll most likely be using the Hurn Headtaker from heresy and converting each one to have different armour and a different pose.

Not 40k (as Predators don't come with an army), but how about Infinity Morat?

The best fit for them are necron deathmarks.

Appear from nowhere, futuristic laser phasers, pack a whallop.

Use them in a regular necron army, and you have predator vs termintor comics all over again.