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Given current rumours, what sort of release could concievably be done? I know 5th edition has massively increased the number of units an army can take although Chaos arguably already have that with the cult troops n chosen really blocking up their units.

Concievable units would have to be
*Plastic raptors
*New chaos dreadnought
*Plastic obliterators
*new Khorne berzerkers
*obligatory flyer unit
*revamped special characters like Abaddon and Kharne

*new types of units I can only speculate. Wacky units there certainly could be. Perhaps juggernaught berzerkers or other 'wacky' cult troops.But TBH Chaos has a very padded out dex with wide variety which it has held since 3rd.

But basically, a lot of units might be revamped to plastic or conversely only a few. Chaos has to my mind a very wide selection of units (even down to individual legions) with models whose only negative is that they're starting to show their age. In toher words I expect them to get a Grey Knights/Blood Angels style release.

We don't know. Sorry.

juraigamer wrote:We don't know. Sorry.

Aww. Not even going to speculate?

Fine.

Chaos dreadknights! You can mark them for even moar fun!
Chaos cultists! amazing and all have rending!
Normal chaos marines have preferred enemy against all imperial codexes!
Everything in the book is immune to instant death, the rule: Favor of the gods.
Tzeentch socerers and such can stop all psy powers on the table on a 3+, arhiman can do it on a 2+
Nurgle models have a version of well' be back
Khorne models have rage and fleet! Weeeee!
Tzeentch models have their armor also count as their invul.
Slanessh models always go first. Always.
Possessed vehicles repair damage on a 5+, 4+ if nurgle.
Chaos gets portals to enter the table from, and access to normal CSM demons (troops)
Chosen get plasma pistols as standard gear.
Chaos get a "dragio" A chosen champion who is trying to kill dragio off in the warp.
Special character allows for a timewarp, you may always re-roll reserve rolls including your opponents.
The new psy powers don't suck.
Iron warriors get a vehicle only version of lash of submission.

Ah, sarcasm.

I meant model wise. Not rules. I already know they got shafted once they changed from 3.5 to 4th. But 5th has been wacky so pretty much anything concievable at this point.

I guess a Slannesh character could do the timewarp...again.

Generally speaking, stuff goes from metal to finecrap, there should be at least one large kit extra and maybe some items get plastic set versions instead of solo models. There also might be a chaos flyer later one.

Just look at the last few releases and how the models are coming out. There should be a 1st wave and a 2nd wave. Or maybe a tsunami, no idea.

If rumours are correct in placing Chaos in late 2012 and Dark Angels in early 2013, I would expect Chaos to be a typically "large", high-model count late-year release (analogous to Dark Eldar and Necrons) and Dark Angels to be a typically "small", low-model count early-year release as with Grey Knights or Blood Angels.

juraigamer wrote:Fine.

Chaos dreadknights! You can mark them for even moar fun!
Chaos cultists! amazing and all have rending!
Normal chaos marines have preferred enemy against all imperial codexes!
Everything in the book is immune to instant death, the rule: Favor of the gods.
Tzeentch socerers and such can stop all psy powers on the table on a 3+, arhiman can do it on a 2+
Nurgle models have a version of well' be back
Khorne models have rage and fleet! Weeeee!
Tzeentch models have their armor also count as their invul.
Slanessh models always go first. Always.
Possessed vehicles repair damage on a 5+, 4+ if nurgle.
Chaos gets portals to enter the table from, and access to normal CSM demons (troops)
Chosen get plasma pistols as standard gear.
Chaos get a "dragio" A chosen champion who is trying to kill dragio off in the warp.
Special character allows for a timewarp, you may always re-roll reserve rolls including your opponents.
The new psy powers don't suck.
Iron warriors get a vehicle only version of lash of submission.

Amen

juraigamer wrote:Chaos get a "dragio" A chosen champion who is trying to kill dragio off in the warp.

What would be even better in my opinion would be that Draigo got split in two in the warp. His mental conditioning and incorruptibility became essentially a daemon, which is what the Grey Knights now see, while his body and any weakness became a champion of chaos. It would certainly explain away how he forged a sword with his mind.

The new psy powers don't suck.

Not gonna happen. Sorry. Everyone knows that only the Imperium is allowed good psychic powers since they're dedicated to the god of psychic powers an all... wait.

I figure there's enough old/metal/hybrid models in the range to give them a pretty meaty update. Even if Chaos didn't get a single new unit (I know there's rumors of cultists, and there's always new units) they would still have plenty of work to do with the four cult troops, Raptors, and Chaos Dreadnought all getting plastics.

I'd honestly just like them to keep the vision for 6th they're going for, and not change it half way like 4th. If they can keep it consistent, then I'll be happy.

Durza wrote:

The new psy powers don't suck.

Not gonna happen. Sorry. Everyone knows that only the Imperium is allowed good psychic powers since they're dedicated to the god of psychic powers an all... wait.

Yeah, that's why the Eldar have such crappy powers and all the Chaos ones were useless pre-FaQ... wait.

Brother SRM wrote:I figure there's enough old/metal/hybrid models in the range to give them a pretty meaty update. Even if Chaos didn't get a single new unit (I know there's rumors of cultists, and there's always new units) they would still have plenty of work to do with the four cult troops, Raptors, and Chaos Dreadnought all getting plastics.

As ever, i agree with Brother SRM.

You can also add Havocs to the list of existing units that probably need plastics.

TBH i think the majority of the Chaos models are actually ok. They could do with a couple more options knocking around (more than one kind of powerfist for example).

Plastic 'Blitz
Plastic Dread (with suitable chaos-y options)
Raptors are already in finecast so not sure if they woudl bother creating brand new sculpts.
I'm hoping they release either better Emps Kids OR a sonic weapons upgrade pack.

my concern is that they are releasing lto of "2 models in one set" kits (immortal/Deathmark for example). And i'm not sure what they do for Chaos with this, maybe the cult units.

NEW LR VARIANT!!! - hopefully.

All I want to see, is some form of psychic defense. It needs to be somewhere between eldar and space wolves ( if tzeench) and between Space wolves and regular nilla marines.

The rest of the changes will be simple icing on the cake

Durza wrote:

juraigamer wrote:Chaos get a "dragio" A chosen champion who is trying to kill dragio off in the warp.

What would be even better in my opinion would be that Draigo got split in two in the warp. His mental conditioning and incorruptibility became essentially a daemon, which is what the Grey Knights now see, while his body and any weakness became a champion of chaos. It would certainly explain away how he forged a sword with his mind.

The new psy powers don't suck.

Not gonna happen. Sorry. Everyone knows that only the Imperium is allowed good psychic powers since they're dedicated to the god of psychic powers an all... wait.

Take a look at the DA psy powers and come back to me with that eh

Formosa wrote:
Take a look at the DA psy powers and come back to me with that eh

It's almost like that codex is from a horrible bygone era that was mercifully short.

Wasn't there rumours of a plastic Chaos Dreadnaught in the new boxed set?
If they get rid of having to roll each turn they might even be worth taking.

Joey wrote:Wasn't there rumours of a plastic Chaos Dreadnaught in the new boxed set?
If they get rid of having to roll each turn they might even be worth taking.

Even with the roll they're worth taking... since it's hard to shoot your own units unless you keep them at the back.

Praxiss wrote:TBH i think the majority of the Chaos models are actually ok. They could do with a couple more options knocking around (more than one kind of powerfist for example).

Plastic 'Blitz
Plastic Dread (with suitable chaos-y options)
Raptors are already in finecast so not sure if they woudl bother creating brand new sculpts.
I'm hoping they release either better Emps Kids OR a sonic weapons upgrade pack.

my concern is that they are releasing lto of "2 models in one set" kits (immortal/Deathmark for example). And i'm not sure what they do for Chaos with this, maybe the cult units.

NEW LR VARIANT!!! - hopefully.

If its just five a squad with multiple weapons, front torso and head they could concievably do

Thousand Sons-maybe even plague marines with a belly n helmet
Noise Marines-havocs? (ps you know they did sell the old hybrid Emprors children in box. Along with night lords n plague marines back when chaos was HUGE)
Raptors-Khorne berzerkers
GW love their dreads not even in doubt they'll get a new one

An Iron Warriors siege land raider would be . I think my IW mate would

TBH though, only Necrons got a lot of hybrid kits so far as I'am aware. The amount of attention DE got was insane I mean virtually the entire codex in plastic. But I think necrons is a more reasonable upper limit for Chaos.

SaintTom wrote:I'd honestly just like them to keep the vision for 6th they're going for, and not change it half way like 4th. If they can keep it consistent, then I'll be happy.

Prepare to be unhappy then...GW are nothing if not consistently inconsistent.

Skriker


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Joey wrote:Wasn't there rumours of a plastic Chaos Dreadnaught in the new boxed set?
If they get rid of having to roll each turn they might even be worth taking.

I have multiple forge world chaos dreadnought models because they look really nice, but I almost never use them in a game. Used one last game, with twinlinked heavy bolters. Walked towards the enemy on the on the first turn it was finally in range to use its weapons on the enemy it instead went crazy and opened up on my plague marine unit that was following it. Luckily it did no damage, but then when it got destroyed the following opponent turn after only having fired on my own troops I was more than a little annoyed. Would definitely be nice if I didn't turn on its own forces so readily.

Skriker

SaintTom wrote:I'd honestly just like them to keep the vision for 6th they're going for, and not change it half way like 4th. If they can keep it consistent, then I'll be happy.

What vision is this?

Skriker wrote:

Joey wrote:Wasn't there rumours of a plastic Chaos Dreadnaught in the new boxed set?
If they get rid of having to roll each turn they might even be worth taking.

I have multiple forge world chaos dreadnought models because they look really nice, but I almost never use them in a game. Used one last game, with twinlinked heavy bolters. Walked towards the enemy on the on the first turn it was finally in range to use its weapons on the enemy it instead went crazy and opened up on my plague marine unit that was following it. Luckily it did no damage, but then when it got destroyed the following opponent turn after only having fired on my own troops I was more than a little annoyed. Would definitely be nice if I didn't turn on its own forces so readily.

You obviously haven't read the latest FAQ. You probably should.

Totalwar1402 wrote:Given current rumours, what sort of release could concievably be done?

There will probably be an initial release followed by waves.
1. Codex
2. Plastic Plague Marines, Noise Marines, Thousand Sons.
3. Plastic Dreadnoughts (or new chaos equivalents).
4. New Land Raider
5. New Flier/Largish skimmer
6. Cultist Troops
7. New terminator box set
8. Some stuff.

Just Dave wrote:

SaintTom wrote:I'd honestly just like them to keep the vision for 6th they're going for, and not change it half way like 4th. If they can keep it consistent, then I'll be happy.

What vision is this?

No idea, that's why its just blind hope for now.

And I've still got lots to paint regardless. I can skip over another edition if I need to.

kronk wrote:
7. New terminator box set

Why would there be one? The current kit isn't very old and it's very, very good.

Brother SRM wrote:

kronk wrote:
7. New terminator box set

Why would there be one? The current kit isn't very old and it's very, very good.

I'll second this. Termies, given how many armies need them (SM, DA, BA, SW(?), GK), they have to be.

Brother SRM wrote:

kronk wrote:
7. New terminator box set

Why would there be one? The current kit isn't very old and it's very, very good.

Yeah that is a good kit. Wish it had been out when I collected Chaos.

Hopefully GW will get crafty and create a Chaos Mutations Sprue with nothing but mutated bits so its makes conversions less of a pocket-ache and gives player who like the Chaos-y feel to display it on their non-Chaotical Armies (Like Nurgle-Orks from the Thirteenth Black Crusade Book).

KplKeegan wrote:Hopefully GW will get crafty and create a Chaos Mutations Sprue with nothing but mutated bits so its makes conversions less of a pocket-ache and gives player who like the Chaos-y feel to display it on their non-Chaotical Armies (Like Nurgle-Orks from the Thirteenth Black Crusade Book).

They did this years ago when they relased the Eye of Terror codex. Also released a "mutants" kit which included a chaos mutations sprue, an ork sprue, a catchan sprue and I think a chaos marauder sprue all for $10. I bought a bunch and also bought a bunch of other sprues, hacked up all the pieces and divided them up by heads, bodies, legs, arms, etc and just started grabbing random pieces to build about 60+ chaos mutants of all types and appearances. Was one of the most awesome things GW ever did, PERIOD. Now you can't buy the individual sprues to do this from GW anymore. :(

Skriker