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Ok so i have dropped off of the 40k world as we know it and am totally done with it feel its a broken game have heard fantasy to be more tactical and strategy based. We have been playing a lot of Battletech and at the end of a very long game i kinda wished we would start another system so we don't get so stale on it. I had a very small undead list maybe 500 points when i was kid that is now has been trashed or sold or whatever happened to it. I have always loved Savage Orcs want to make a fluffy kinda army lots of forest goblins and all savage boys throw in some trolls and was thinking if i could get my two buddies to buy island of blood with me this would be a great way for all of them to have a army and a excuse for me to buy a hunk of Orcs So the real question is what could this buy i have in mind get me i don't need all the magic items upgrades etc i just was curious of a rough points number

1 Goblin warboss on giant spider
1 Savage warboss on Boar( Great shaman on boar maybe but the model will work for me either way)
2 boxes of savage orc boys wanna clump together with two hand weapons
2 boxes of savage orc boar boys
1 box Forest goblin spider riders
1 box River trolls
1 unit of 20 goblin archers ( plan on buying Arachnarok crew from various web stores to keep with feel 21 of the little turds is about 24 bucks not bad )
1 goblin shaman also from the Arachnarok

Will this be in any way a workable list or hell even fun to play i guess i think it sounds like a blast haha

Thank you Comments Welcome and Wanted

gobbo archers are a good choice for harassment and it is always nice to be able to charge them in if they are ignored and have your +3 rank bonus but I would recommend getting some true combat goblins.

sword and board is the way to go, I like night gobbos with nets led by a regular goblin boss or warboss. currenlty i only run 35 of them but I am hoping to get over 40. It is nice to have a unit that is basically immune to missile fire. 50 goblins is only 150 points and you have to kill 13 to force a panic test(and with a gobbo warlord that is on ld 8)

I think you might need more than 20 Savage Orcs. A 30 man block, IMO, is the minimum, as they are still rather squishy, even with toughness 4, and you want all the attacks you can get. Maybe make them Big Uns! Also, a Shaman in the unit with Lucky Shrunken Head is nasty. 5+ ward saves on a big block? Yikes!

I played mono Savages for awhile


Rock a unit of 40 with full command and additional hand weapons

Get a savage orc great shaman slap the lucky shrunken head on him with fencers blades and watch him eat everything alive.

be careful of falling into the orcs and goblins trap.

Animosity is a b#$@!

Try to run Larger units and ALWAYS take a BSB

Also id try to run 6 river trolls and drop either the archers or the spider riders
well they may seem like a solid harassment unit they wont hit the broad side of a barn and str3 doesn't go far

Look into a stone thrower or some spear chuckas
well they are unreliable the points are equivalent and unlike gobbos they wont just panic and disappear as they will be further behind your line


just food for thought sir