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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/30 21:39:10
Subject: Blood Angels - Attack Bikes vs. Land Speeders
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot
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I am looking to see what others think (not just BA players) with using Attack bike squads or a squadron of land speeders? Is one better than the other? AB's are cheaper and dont suffer from the squadron rule, LS can deepstrike and flat out......
Let me hear what you think!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/30 22:29:53
Subject: Re:Blood Angels - Attack Bikes vs. Land Speeders
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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I love speeders, flamer/mm is sick. Speeders are also easier to hide and provide further armor saturation
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/04/30 22:45:44
Subject: Re:Blood Angels - Attack Bikes vs. Land Speeders
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Bounding Assault Marine
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I like attack bikes because you can run them in close quarters and get the cover saves while firing. But with land speeders they can zoom over terrain but almost always be visible.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/01 01:55:15
Subject: Blood Angels - Attack Bikes vs. Land Speeders
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Tilter at Windmills
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In BA? Depends what you want.
LS pros:
Can Deep Strike (only useful for MM/HF variant).
Can fly over terrain.
Can't be locked in combat.
Can use squadron rules to bounce enemy shooting while maximizing cover. Classic example is a unit of two Typhoons teaming up with a Predator. One Typhoon hovers behind the Pred, gets cover for both of them, and both can shoot. While standing off at long range, if being hit by single heavy weapon shots, they can also keep dumping single hits on the same model, if one is already Shaken or Weapon Destroyed.
Attack Bike Pros:
Can hide more easily.
Can assault things, tying up or even beating medium-weak units, particularly if you have a Priest nearby to give them FNP and Furious Assault.
Can bounce small arms fire reliably (esp w/FNP) and never get Shaken or Weapon Destroyed or Immobilized.
Generally speaking I like the attack bikes better as a multimelta platform, and the speeder better in the Typhoon configuration for long range mobile fire support. Devastators are also a good choice in BA, because they're as cheap as Long Fangs and can benefit from FNP, but they can't move and fire, which is particularly annoying in Dawn of War deployment.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/01 12:44:51
Subject: Blood Angels - Attack Bikes vs. Land Speeders
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
Alexandria, VA
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^ That is one freakin' good post.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/01 12:47:44
Subject: Blood Angels - Attack Bikes vs. Land Speeders
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
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Depends on your army. If I were running a jumper or DoA army I'd take bikes, as they don't break the 'no armour' rule and they are smaller and can get fnp.
If I had a mech BA army I'd take speeders because they bring more armour, can cover your own vehicles and can fly over your own mech line, or flank round the sides.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/01 15:15:15
Subject: Blood Angels - Attack Bikes vs. Land Speeders
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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I prefer attack bikes. I've found them imo to last a little longer. A squad of 3 AB with a priest on a bike is a nice combo (225 pts roughly, with 3 2 wound models and FNP) They also hold up well in an assault too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/01 23:29:04
Subject: Blood Angels - Attack Bikes vs. Land Speeders
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
DC Metro
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I vastly prefer Attack Bikes, though I run a pure jumper BA army rather than a Razorspam one. Benefiting from FnP and Furious Charge while not having to deal with being the only vehicles in the army gives them better synergy with the rest of the army. That said, if I want to stray from the pure jumper thing, I'm more likely to back it with Devastators or Baal Preds than with Attack Bikes. Devs provide a cheap base of fire, while Baals provide fast, mobile cover to cut down the amount of fire that can be directed at my Assault Marines.
My Wolves are mech'd out, and supported by swarms of Typhoons because they can find cover among the Razorbacks while skirting around to put fire into the things that LOS my Long Fangs.
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