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I've watched CNN and saw a black man. named "King" ... ok i remember his last name but not his first name. had 'relived' an incident that sparked the flame that burns much of Los Angeles to cinders..(while CNN crew joined the ride too). a man in question said that once he reached L.A. outskirts. a group of cops called him to stop and disembark his car. then followed by a group of cops battered him. enough that this torment could kill any man.
And next day a civil unrest broke up in L.A.

1. Has anyone here comes from L.A. and personally involved in. or witnessed the incident?
2. Did N.G. deployed in L.A. to end the riots? if so. was curfew being declared. and did the N.G. uses firing squads to suppress the riots? (just like ones favored in the carnage of late period of French Revolution. the Government deployed firing squads and drag every dissidents out. charged them with anything worths death sentences. and BANG!) did N.G. being authorized to drag any black citizens there and summarily executed them that way?
Did the President authrozed any neccessary massacre to keep peace?
dunno but in the same year. and in the following weeks. there was also a similar massacre in Thailand. this one was authorized by the .. then.. Prime Minister Gen. Sujinda Kraprayun. the bloodshed lasted almost a week. until the King called the leaders of the dissidents and the P.M. in question to scold.
and then the killing stopped!
If N.G. didn't deployed. who else?
3. And what was an international reaction towards the L.A. riots?
- Russia
- China
- Western European countries
- Australia
- Canada
- Latin America
- Libya (of course! none other than Gaddhafi himself)
- Iraq (and yes! Saddam Hussein)
4. How did any white fascist organizations reacts towards the said riots?
- KKK
- Nazi
- Italian-style generic Fascists
5. And Did the black gangs increased its aggressions after the crackdown? as an act of revenge?
6. Did the death rows hastened during, and after L.A. Riots. as a reaction against the violence?
7. Who were tried and sentenced to death during. and after the said riots? as a consequences to the bloodsheds occured there.




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Lone Cat wrote:
- Nazi



American History X anyone?


- Italian-style generic Fascists


These people exist?

Any relation to the Mafia?

 
   
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Piston Honda wrote:
Lone Cat wrote:
- Nazi



American History X anyone?


- Italian-style generic Fascists


These people exist?

Any relation to the Mafia?


I must find the film American History X first.

"Italian-Style generic Fascists" refers to any generic fascist organization that follows mussolini guidelines rather than Adolf Hitler's ones. Yes. Nazism is Fascism but Fascism itself has a very thin distinction with German-originated Nazism. Francisco Franco follows Italian schools of Fascism rather than Germanic ones. While classic Fascism targeted 'Heresy', Witchcraft, Gangsterism (Especially the classic Mafia), and Leftwing. classic Fascism doesn't view Jews as a big threat. Nazism viewed Jews as a big threat, while listed leftwings, especially Communism as a secondary threat. but fully accepted witchcraft



Mafia itself is a big bane to Fascist so the relationship between the two is likely to be hostile. and I don't think Mafia has any fascism thinking. they focus on wealth while preserving their six-centuries old traditions.



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Lone Cat wrote:And next day a civil unrest broke up in L.A.


The riots broke out after the trials of the police involved in the beating, not the day after the beating.

Almost every question you ask can be answered by reading a book, reading a report, watching a documentary, or looking for it online except for the first.

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^ ok thanks for correcting me.
are you from Los Angeles or anywhere in Southern California?



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1. Has anyone here comes from L.A. and personally involved in. or witnessed the incident?
-Left right before but I know people there at the time.
2. Did N.G. deployed in L.A. to end the riots?
-Yes eventually.
if so. was curfew being declared. and did the N.G. uses firing squads to suppress the riots?
-No, that’s not what we do here.

did N.G. being authorized to drag any black citizens there and summarily executed them that way?
-No. I assume you are not trolling twith this, but looking for information. We don’t do that, unless you defame the greatness that is barbeque.

Did the President authrozed any neccessary massacre to keep peace?

-No. He didn’t authorize any unnecessary ones either.

If N.G. didn't deployed. who else?

-The local police.

3. And what was an international reaction towards the L.A. riots?
-They all applauded the US and said they wanted to be new states, especially Britain and Canada.

4. How did any white fascist organizations reacts towards the said riots?
- KKK
They don’t really have the KKK in California much.
- Nazi
They don’t have too many of those.

- Italian-style generic Fascists
They were working on their Ferraris, and waiving their hands a lot in conversation.

And Did the black gangs increased its aggressions after the crackdown? as an act of revenge?
-Hard to get worse than what it already was.

6. Did the death rows hastened during, and after L.A. Riots. as a reaction against the violence?
-No

7. Who were tried and sentenced to death during. and after the said riots? as a consequences to the bloodsheds occured there
.
-None that I am aware of.

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Frazzled wrote:

And Did the black gangs increased its aggressions after the crackdown? as an act of revenge?
-Hard to get worse than what it already was.


This is incorrect gang violence actually decreased in the days before and after the riots. Mostly on account of a peace treaty signed between the the major rival gangs (no joke, unbelievable as it sounds)



Everything else frazzles said is correct, especially about BBQ
   
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Clthomps wrote:
Frazzled wrote:

And Did the black gangs increased its aggressions after the crackdown? as an act of revenge?
-Hard to get worse than what it already was.


This is incorrect gang violence actually decreased in the days before and after the riots. Mostly on account of a peace treaty signed between the the major rival gangs (no joke, unbelievable as it sounds)



Everything else frazzles said is correct, especially about BBQ


Decreased is a relative term, and short term only.

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Frazzled wrote:
if so. was curfew being declared. and did the N.G. uses firing squads to suppress the riots?
-No, that’s not what we do here.


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Orlanth wrote:Its a known fact that Aussies are genetically disposed towards crime, we intentionally set them up that way.

But only awesome crimes like bushranging and, if I understand the song correctly, sheep stealing and suicide.
 
   
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Do you have a pic there or something? I can't see it.

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Frazzled wrote:Do you have a pic there or something? I can't see it.


No pic, but honestly Frazz you really believe that US authorities have never used lethal force (en masse) against rioters and protestors?

sebster wrote:
Orlanth wrote:Its a known fact that Aussies are genetically disposed towards crime, we intentionally set them up that way.

But only awesome crimes like bushranging and, if I understand the song correctly, sheep stealing and suicide.
 
   
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Hazardous Harry wrote:
Frazzled wrote:Do you have a pic there or something? I can't see it.


No pic, but honestly Frazz you really believe that US authorities have never used lethal force (en masse) against rioters and protestors?


Define lethal force (en masse) against rioters and protestors.

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Odenton, MD

Frazzled wrote:
Clthomps wrote:
Frazzled wrote:

And Did the black gangs increased its aggressions after the crackdown? as an act of revenge?
-Hard to get worse than what it already was.


This is incorrect gang violence actually decreased in the days before and after the riots. Mostly on account of a peace treaty signed between the the major rival gangs (no joke, unbelievable as it sounds)



Everything else frazzles said is correct, especially about BBQ


Decreased is a relative term, and short term only.


Actually from the high point in the early nineties, gang violence is down by a substantial margin.


This graph is not LA specific, but thanks to the treaties created in LA and spread to other major areas in the US you can see a noticeable drop . Granted there're more factors involved but over all the violence has decreased.

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Your chart ends before many 40K gamers were born....

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Lol that is true. The heathens my wife teaches have no idea life existed before 2005.
   
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Brisbane, Australia

Frazzled wrote:
Hazardous Harry wrote:
Frazzled wrote:Do you have a pic there or something? I can't see it.


No pic, but honestly Frazz you really believe that US authorities have never used lethal force (en masse) against rioters and protestors?


Define lethal force (en masse) against rioters and protestors.


I think this covers it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings

sebster wrote:
Orlanth wrote:Its a known fact that Aussies are genetically disposed towards crime, we intentionally set them up that way.

But only awesome crimes like bushranging and, if I understand the song correctly, sheep stealing and suicide.
 
   
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Seriously? That was also a seminal event in the 60s. WERE YOU EVEN ALIVE THEN?

Getteth real dude.

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Hazardous Harry wrote:I think this covers it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings


4 dead was 4 to many, but I don't think this qualifies as en masse, especially when looking at how other regimes have dealt with protests using violence. Wounded Knee might be a better example, but took place in 1890, which was during Fraz's late teens I believe.

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Frazzled for the last time!!!! Keep your old seminal events away from the young'uns!

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I'm not comparing the US to the Khmere Rouge, Frazz. But you're deluding yourself if you think the US has squeeky clean hands in this matter.

sebster wrote:
Orlanth wrote:Its a known fact that Aussies are genetically disposed towards crime, we intentionally set them up that way.

But only awesome crimes like bushranging and, if I understand the song correctly, sheep stealing and suicide.
 
   
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Ahtman wrote:
Hazardous Harry wrote:I think this covers it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings


4 dead was 4 to many, but I don't think this qualifies as en masse, especially when looking at how other regimes have dealt with protests using violence. Wounded Knee might be a better example, but took place in 1890, which was during Fraz's late teens I believe.


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Hazardous Harry wrote:I think this covers it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings


I don't think it's reasonable to cast a single incident widely considered to be a horrible tragedy by virtually everyone involved and cast it as if it was any sort of premeditated, sanctioned US policy.

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I was there for that. I lived in long beach and the rioters were burning buildings the next city block over.

the police were having a hard time getting the riots under control, but once the national guard showed up things quieted down pretty quick.

most people know cops are more likely to shoot unarmed dogs than people so no one really listens when a cop tells them to do something. but when a army guardsmans points a rifle at you and tells you to stop, people stopped.

 
   
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This is the weirdest set of questions you have ever come up with?
By the way, not everything that happens everywhere will necessarily get attention from other countries.

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Ouze wrote:
Hazardous Harry wrote:I think this covers it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings


I don't think it's reasonable to cast a single incident widely considered to be a horrible tragedy by virtually everyone involved and cast it as if it was any sort of premeditated, sanctioned US policy.


I'm not saying it does, because that would mean every act of police violence ever done in Australia is police policy (*ahem* Fitzgeral Inquiry).

Out of interest though, when was the last time the UK used firearms against protesting civilians? (I'd leave out Ireland because that was, essentially, a warzone).

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But only awesome crimes like bushranging and, if I understand the song correctly, sheep stealing and suicide.
 
   
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Frazzled wrote:
Hazardous Harry wrote:
Frazzled wrote:Do you have a pic there or something? I can't see it.


No pic, but honestly Frazz you really believe that US authorities have never used lethal force (en masse) against rioters and protestors?


Define lethal force (en masse) against rioters and protestors.

Definitions: Any peace-keeping armed forces belongs to the government (Be they Army, Police, Gendarmes, Sherrivry, Garde du Corps ....) intentionally kills rioters and protesters. the orders to massacre is authorized by a ruling government.

Examples of Lethal forces against rioters and protesters: 19th May Massacre. 1992, 15th April Massacre. 2009, and 19th May Massacre 2010. Bangkok. Thailand.

The government authorized lethal force against their political opposition.
the 1992 Massacre was signed by Gen. Sujinda Kraprayoon. Ones in 2009 and 2012 was authorized by Abhisidh Vejjajeva. the shame is. Abhisidh himself was a graduate of University of Oxford. UK.
I believe he saw so many massacres the Queen's men did against Irish folks in North Ireland from time to time. and believed that such massacres are neccessary to keep peace.

Unfortunately for him. the Massacres in 2010 had already made it to the ICJ court. and the investigations seems to worked against him. i'm sure that Abhisidh Vejjajeva will be gallowed in the end.

when was the last time the UK used firearms against protesting civilians? (I'd leave out Ireland because that was, essentially, a warzone).

60s-80s. Northern Ireland. and this led to 'Kill or be killed' policy irish folks choose to.

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When was he at Oxford?
There hasn't been that level of violence in Ireland since the Troubles and you can hardly call those massacres...
The violence in the 60's and the 80's was not carried out against Northern Irish citizens but members of the IRA...
It isn't the same thing as shooting wildly into an actively protesting crowd.

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Hazardous Harry wrote:
Out of interest though, when was the last time the UK used firearms against protesting civilians? (I'd leave out Ireland because that was, essentially, a warzone).


I wouldn't.

Also India.


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Hazardous Harry wrote:I'm not comparing the US to the Khmere Rouge, Frazz. But you're deluding yourself if you think the US has squeeky clean hands in this matter.


I never said that. You on the other hand pulled a 45 year old incident out of your ass as your argument as an excuse to attack the US.

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purplefood wrote:When was he at Oxford?
There hasn't been that level of violence in Ireland since the Troubles and you can hardly call those massacres...


Abhisidh was in Oxford sometimes in 80s.
Actually he's also British citizen. but since his clan is a noble caste. anything commons view as illegal seems to be exempted.

ok. since you are british man. could you please tell me how do Irish folks think of the UK administrations in North Ireland.



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purplefood wrote:When was he at Oxford?
There hasn't been that level of violence in Ireland since the Troubles and you can hardly call those massacres...
The violence in the 60's and the 80's was not carried out against Northern Irish citizens but members of the IRA...
It isn't the same thing as shooting wildly into an actively protesting crowd.


I think we may be looking at a slight a language issue purple. His use of 'massacre' may not mean the same thing to him as you. i'm thinking this is English as second language and term might be slightly off, or then again, not.


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