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Ok, so...i've had a Nurgle daemons army for a while now, and have done well with it. I guess it was only a matter of time till my love for all things nurgly spilled over into Death Guard too. This list will ideally run alongside my 2000pt Epidemius Daemons list.

-Chaos Lord (165)
---Mark of Nurgle
---Terminator Armour
---Daemon Weapon

-Daemon Prince (180)
---Mark of Nurgle
---Wings
---Wind of Chaos

-Chaos Terminators (6) (280)
---Icon of Nurgle
---2 Chainfists
---Combi-melta
---Reaper Autocannon

-Plague Marines (7) (261)
---Plague Champion
------Powerfist
---2 Meltaguns
---Rhino APC
------Twin-Bolter

-Plague Marines (7) (271)
---Plague Champion
------Powerfist
---2 Plasmaguns
---Rhino APC
------Twin-Bolter

-Chaos Havocs (7) (340)
---Aspiring Champion
------Twin-Bolter
------Powerfist
---Icon of Nurgle
---4 Lascannon


Any comments, suggestions, or snide remarks welcome.

Being very harsh, your going to lose, a lot.
It would help a little if you gave a bit of context, are you just using this as a friendly fluffy list/army in a friendly environment, or wanting to play tournaments with it, or wanting to be fluffy but fair competitive (remembering Chaos at the moment are limited in there competitiveness).

The first thing that glares out, is your extremely expensive Havoc squad. I think you've got the points cost wrong, but don't know where my codex is at the moment so can't check (don't use Havocs myself so can't remember there points costs off the top of my head).

If you really want to run Havocs, and really want to run 7, take Plasma guns. In a rhino. Basically treat Havocs like Chosen, without infiltrate. They Heavy Weapons are way to expensive to bother with.

Your Plague Marine squads are also very expensive, be aware that they aren't going to kill very much. And while they are pretty tough, you only have 31 models overall. If its an objective game, those Plague Marines are going to go down pretty quick. You just don't have enough units to be scary. I'd rather not suggest units of 5, but to be honest, its the only way i've really had success with Plagues. When i've taken 7 with a power fist, they've just been a disappointment. For 12 points less, you can get 2x5 PM w/2 Meltas and 1x5 PM w/2 Plasma. All in rhinos. Thats one more PM, 2 more shooty weapons, 1 more vehicle.

I also think, for your 340 point Havoc squad, you could fit in two 5 man squads with 4 Plasma in a rhino.

Personally, I think what makes Death Guard at the moment (all the time?) Is the models. If you've got some nicely converted rhinos, havocs, Lord etc you've got a great looking Death Guard army, with the ability to win.

Thanks for the tips. Yeah, this army is mostly a fluffy side project meant specifically to complement my Nurgle daemons list. Since i lack ranged-anti tank, thats why i have such a cheesy havoc squad loaded with Lascannon. I understand that on its own, this is most likely a fail army, the beauty is i wont ever run it alone , these guys will always be backed by 2000 points of Epidemius filled, Ku'Gathy smeared Nurgly goodness. In smaller games im just gunna run plain deamons anyways. Still, i'll probably use your suggestions to prepare a stand-alone army for later. Thanks again man

If you want range to complement your Daemons, i'd suggest Predators or Obliterators as heavy supports, get 3 Preds or 6 Oblits (you might have to dod some more editing/dropping in the rest of the list). They won't benefit from the Tally, but your ranged stuff doesn't need to. Then with some tough mid range Termies and Plague Marines your good to go.

I agree with the Havoc unit suggestion by rodgers.

Rhinos for your PLague marine squads should have either combi-meltas or havoc launchers. Think of your strategy and decide.

Chaos terminators can be very point efficient at small three man squads with combi-melta and possibly a chain fist. Keep them cheap and effective.

OR

Take a huge Termi squad and kit it out. If you are going to go this route, do it to the fullest. Take advantage of marks, reaper auto cannons, and wound allocation shenanigans.

Chaos Lords suck for the cost, unfortunately. Stick with the prince.

There is also a really awesome forge world death guard sorcerer model that is in termi armor. Not competitive but if you are going for fluff/hobby he may be right up your alley: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Chaos/VEHICLES_INFANTRY_AND_ACCESSORIES/NURGLE_CHAOS_MARINE_SORCERER.html

Deuce and Rodgers have good thoughts on the Havocs, bar some slight changes: Havocs work fine for heavy fire support, but if you're doing so you need to consider how best to build a squad to fill that role. It looks like the unit you've got is optimized for killing armor; consider: against vehicles, you're paying 35pts for S9 when you could be paying 20pts for S8 missile launchers. Going through the numbers in their entirety, a lascannon squad is 60pts more expensive than a missile launcher squad, but you're getting a +12% chance to kill an armored vehicle with an AV of under 14 at best. Worth it? Probably not.

The Aspiring Champion upgrade, power fist, and twin-linked boltgun on the Havoc squad is probably just 45 wasted points, you could dump those entirely and not notice their absence in almost any game.

You don't need two HQ models in this list, you need more Plague Marines. Drop the Lord and get another Plague Marine squad.

And yes, the Rhinos should have Havoc Launchers or combi-weapons, as-is you're sacrificing weapon slots in an army build that has enough horribly expensive units that you don't want to sacrifice any weapon slots.

Deuce11 wrote:
Take a huge Termi squad and kit it out. If you are going to go this route, do it to the fullest. Take advantage of marks, reaper auto cannons, and wound allocation shenanigans.

Deuce...forgive me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that you needed multi-Wound models to take advantage of wound allocation shenanigans. Chaos Terminators only have one Wound each.

You are so right. #embarrassed

Thanks for all the info guys. So heres what i have to far (model wise) 6 Terminators, modeled with gear from the list, 1 Chaos Lord with the Ogre Kingdoms Ironbelly (or w/e the great weapon ones are) billhook as a daemon weapon, a Daemon Prince, 2 Nurgly Rhinos, and 21 marines, which are a heterodox mix of plastice CSM's, finecast Plague Marines, and plastic Possessed Marines, all kitbashed together. The marines are as-of-yet armless, since im still doing the putty work with green stuff on them.

How would you guys implement the models above into a coherent and mildly competitive army?

If it's a fluffy side project, why not Typhus?

I can see Nurgle liking obliterators. They always kind of looked nurgle-y to me.

I think most of the points have been covered, but I'll recap.

Drop the Chaos Lord for another Prince, or turn the points into Heavy Support.

Your Plague Marine squads are fine. They won't "die a lot". They are very resilient, and at I3 the Powerfist champs are a good upgrade.

Drop the champ from the Havoc squad and switch from Lascannons to Missile Launchers.

If you do find points to put into Heavy Support, go with a Las Pred or Oblits. Either can be converted to Nurgle fluff.

Just my 2¢