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There you go =)

Here's the stats for the machine gun

Short
0-8/+3
Medium
8-16/+3
Long
16-24/-6
Max
--
Damage
13
Burst
3
Ammunition
Shock
Template
No
E/M Vuln.
No
CC
No

Usual reminder: You can't hotlink to images on the Infinity site!

Anyway, it seems the release frenzy has overloaded their site again, so we'll have to wait anyway. (They really need a server upgrade.)

True =P
Will fix it asap

Ooh. Shock ammo. Didn't expect them to give the SMG that. Still trying to get the "Hari" rules update though. It's that time of the month when CB's servers are overloaded again.

Anyone managed to see the new rules yet?

Nope =(
But I think I remember having seen a Fireteam link mention ?
Really not sure

Still checking back every 5 minutes and trying to refresh. I really want to see what the new 'Hari" link might do, as well as the new Odalisque profiles. There go any plans of getting a second faction.

EDIT: Got it!

Fireteam: Haris Level 1:
-allows creation of new type of fireteam, but max of 3 figures.
-Fireteam composed of a figure with this skill and up to 2 troops with the same unit type (pdf seems to imply that not all Odalisques will gain the skill)
-Follows link-team rules, but...
*Is in addition to the single allowed fireteam in a list! So you can field 1 normal link-team, and 1 Haris link!
*Model with Haris need not be the fire team leader.
*only 1 model in the army may have the Haris skill per army list
*may not be composed of different unit types (no mixing Hafzas into the Haris team)

Original post updated with profile

I did manage to get through to the picture when just using the address with no referrer.

Short version:
Odalisque with SMG, Contender & Nanopulser: SWC 0, 25 pts.
Odalisque with Fireteam: Haris L1, Rifle + LS & Nanopulser: SWC 1 26 pts.
No other changes I can see.

What Haris L1 does, I do not know yet. (We may have to wait for the next book?)

phelanw0lf wrote:It's that time of the month when CB's servers are overloaded again.

Ah yes. The CB servers are like a fine woman. Wonderful to ogle, but they get very shirty about everyone staring at them once a month.

Haris L1 lets you have a second Link Team with the following restrictions:

Only one model with the skill in your list.
Up to three models.
Only models from the same unit can join the Haris model so no Odalisque+Hafza.
Team leader doesn't have to be the model with Haris.

Two link teams in a QK army! 1 normal, and 1 Haris team! (edited my previous post above with the new rules). Now most definitely sold on grabbing that Odalisque box when it goes live.

Sweet
Thanks guys !

wow I think were going to be seeing more QK lists soon.

So how much of a difference will this rule make? I will admit to limited experience with fireteams, so I don't know how much more it could do. And there's also the fact that the Haris team limit is only 3, so it doesn't have the ablative quality of a 4 or 5 man link.

Fiddling around with the devil team army builder to see what can be done. I've already got a cute 8 fig 150pt force that looks like it will be fun and efficient at low pointage.

Odalisque Hari (26/0)
Odalisque Rifle+LSGx2 (50/0)
Ghulam Lt (13/0)
Ghulam Panzerfaust x2 (32/1)
Ghulam Rifle+LSGx2 (26/0)
Total 147pts, 1 SWC.

Now i'm wondering if you can forgo the Haris link to do a regular link at 5. This of course meaning they can be the only link team in a turn.

That's a very good way to sell Odalisques.

@CDK: Well, Odas are still linkable in QK anyway, so you can still field them as a normal 5-trooper team. Would still be the only link though. How about fielding a 5-Oda list, with a backup force that can link up, like say a trio or quartet of Djans, and once the Odas get busted down to 3, Link up the Djans, and then activate the Hari rule (if she's still alive that is). Sounds dodgy as an actual game plan though, the more I imagine it....

phelanw0lf wrote:
Fiddling around with the devil team army builder to see what can be done. I've already got a cute 8 fig 150pt force that looks like it will be fun and efficient at low pointage.

Note that the Haris model costs 1 SWC, so that list wouldn't work.

I think it's an interesting idea. I could see a spitfire, rifle(haris) and SMG/contender haris team being very nice.
Fast moving for few orders, burst 2 (including contender) in ARO, burst 5 spitfire or 4 SMG in active turn.

And only 2 SWC.
That's sounds fairly balanced to me too, as the 1SWC is the cost of an extra LI spitfire.

phelanw0lf wrote:@CDK: Well, Odas are still linkable in QK anyway, so you can still field them as a normal 5-trooper team. Would still be the only link though. How about fielding a 5-Oda list, with a backup force that can link up, like say a trio or quartet of Djans, and once the Odas get busted down to 3, Link up the Djans, and then activate the Hari rule (if she's still alive that is). Sounds dodgy as an actual game plan though, the more I imagine it....

I had the same thought. If they start out with a 5 link, can they do the Haris rule as long as they have one of them with the skill? But it means paying for the 1SWC that you may not need.

@Quozl: Oops, missed the SWC, good catch. Still even with that 1 SWC added, only puts the list at 147 / 2, so should still be legal. I really like that fireteam you proposed. Nastiness both in ARO and in active.

Also, I may be underestimating the durability of the Odalisques. I'd forgotten that they also have V:No Wound Incapacitation.

"Haris Level 1" = Additional Fireteam with 3 miniatures...

SO.....

Haris Level 2 = 4 man fireteam
Haris Level 3 = 5 man Fireteam

I suppose...

SO...

Infinity is heading to a Squad game.

Just with this new rule, they have opened the door to... really multiple combinations and... yes, a way to sell more boxes.
Because now I can make a 5 men Djanbazan fireteam and a 3 Odalisques Fireteam.

Let's apply this to the other armies, like:
5 keisotsus and 4 Domarus
5 Muyibs and 3 Lasiqs
...

Just by giving this skill to any troop the army increases its firepower....

I do however wonder how much of a spanner in the works Haris might be for those of us who don't run sectorials. One fireteam can be a job to deal with.

There's so many pretty models I struggle to keep my collection within the limits of an entire faction (and have already failed, as some things were just too nice not to have), so the idea of trying to build to a sectorial spec doesn't appeal.

Mind you, I suppose a Haris team will be a lot more brittle - if the Haris troop dies, no more second team.

Was it always Sixth Sense OR 360?

Yes. Yes it was.

Ah, before it was a / which was a little confusing I think.

That's the way all either/or choices of skills have been worded up until now.

I dunno why everyone is so terrified of Link Teams.

I haven't played a game without some sort of template weapon... usually multiple templates. Heavy Flamethrowers, Grenade Launchers, Chain Rifles...

I was writing up an Ariadna list that uses 2 Traktor Muls and a bunch of Forward Observers... Boom.

Link Teams only work when they stick together, and if you pop a couple templates on them, it can really ruin their day. Not to mention Mines.

Am I wrong here? Sure they get cool buffs and stuff, but there's a few obvious downsides as well.

Yes sort of but they only need to remain within 8in. of the link leader which I think is pretty big. I agree though that they have downsides to the bonuses as well.

Yeah I have never had much of an issue with Link Teams. Kill the link leader in your active turn and they turn to mush. Shoot the non-link leader in ARO and laugh as he can't defend himself.

Duroc will make an unholy mess of most link teams.

BlueDagger wrote:Duroc will make an unholy mess of most link teams.

That is so fething true. Duroc can smahs a 5 men fireteam any day of the year and if he dies (after smashing everyone) Margot will be back there to finish the job with her awesome skills. She is good enough to kill another fireteam without even exposing herself to enemy fire.

Bring it on! Odalisques. Merovingia will have you as a light breakfast before going to the real battle!!!