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Considering the rumored stats for the Ork flyers, do you guys suppose they will be squadron based?
I can't imagine putting them in if one model takes a whole slot.
Obviously all rumor and speculation, but what do you think?

I hope so, because aren't they AV 10 all around. Space wolves will blown them out of the air quickly if you only get one per slot.

Wait, we have to predict the rules for a flyer that BoW just talked about 20 minutes ago and released a highly suspect sketch?

Absolutely!

pretre wrote:Wait, we have to predict the rules for a flyer that BoW just talked about 20 minutes ago and released a highly suspect sketch?

I don't remember hearing anything about a squadron or lack of. Though my wife was playing angry birds so I could have missed it.

Of course they'll be in squadrons and squadrons will be the only viable way to run them, too.

They need to sell as many of these more expensive than a Land Raider kits as they can.

Well, with the flyers having such low AV and what not, if they don't come in groups, they will be competing for slots with things that CAN take squads or things that don't need squads, so here is to hoping we get some flyer squads.
Like a Deffsquadron or something.

I'm fantasizing that they take an Elite slot and can be fielded in skwadrons of 3. That way we can have 9 Kans + 9 Buggies + 9 flyers on the table. With 2 KFF Big Meks and 2 Deff Dreads as troops. Hey look we finally have the orky answer to AV 14 vehicles, just bring three times as many vehicles! MOAR! ARMOAR!!!

If their firepower is on par with vendettas I wouldn't mind them being singles. And it's not like we can't field an additional 18 AV10 vehicles

KoS Trukks, now with air strikes!

Im thinking make the fighta-bombas on an immobilized or wrecked result scatter 2d6 and explode with some thing like a battle cannon shot. I also believe the ork player should be able to remove any flyer from the squadron and place the same template anywhere within its max movement (maybe only scatter 1d6 for the suicide shot).

They'll be a Fast Attack slot, will have odd wrecked results, will be overcosted in points and $$$, and will be available in squadrons. Count on it.

probably agree with overcosted in $ hopign not in points, so=uns liek a good excuse to buy more AoBR deffkoptas from ebay in anticipatioon for convertions

rabidaskal wrote:I'm fantasizing that they take an Elite slot and can be fielded in skwadrons of 3. That way we can have 9 Kans + 9 Buggies + 9 flyers on the table. With 2 KFF Big Meks and 2 Deff Dreads as troops. Hey look we finally have the orky answer to AV 14 vehicles, just bring three times as many vehicles! MOAR! ARMOAR!!!

Pure Brilliance!
Also, all the people thinking they will be fast attack slot, I'm a bit hesitant to agree. I have a feeling we'll be seeing some new slot for them, as the general rumor is for larger armies.

Just a thought.

My guess is that the entire FoC gets overhauled.

Either we become a % based system like the current Fantesy rules or there becomes a new FoC slot for Superheavies/Flyers.

My vote goes to a % system.


Something like maximum of 25% of your points in HQ and minimum of 1 choice. Minimum of 25% in Troops. Maximum of 50% in Elites, Fast Attack, and Heavy Support combined.

And they change scoring back to where any Infantry or Jump Infantry model may take objectives.

I hope they don't go to a % based system, but who knows what they'll do. They'll have to errata the heck out of all of the books since they put the FOC in the codecies.

They didn't have the Errata the heck out of the Fantesy books. They just had the section in the BRB that said "This section overrides all the army book army comp sections"

Why would % be bad?

It would give you incredible freedom to create your army. Massive options would arise.

I already have incredible freedom that I would lose with this change. Massive options would be taken away.

If I want to run 3x squads of 10 terminators each and keep my troops a 2x 5-man scout squads, how will I do that with a % based system? I just spent 1200+ points on terminators. If I were forced to keep my elites to 50% of my army, then it would have to be a 2500 point game.

And that's before I add in my heavy support options.

I'll second that I would hate to have a percentage based system, if i wanted to play warhammer fantasy i'd play warhammer fantasy. I'd hate to play eldar with 50% troops.... well i guess if dedicated transports counted I could get 5 dire avengers jsu tto get the wave serpants but still... now with orks 50% boyz, no problem

Most aircraft in Apocalypse and in Forgeworld books tend to be AV10 all around. Their survivability comes from mobility and they're a unit type you can only hit on sixes. If I recall correctly they can leave the table and reenter for strafing runs and such too.