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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/04 01:14:05
Subject: do the Necrons have a home planet?
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I'm new to the Warhammer universe and have my mind made up on getting Necrons for my 1st army, and i've been tossing around some scheme ideas like black skeletons with white plate cover, or gold, tan and turquise egyption style like the Nihilakh Dynasty, but im also thinking about some kind of Camo patter and the regular brown and green i think would look weird, so is there anywhere in the Necron backstory "which i haven't had a chance to look into myself yet" where they have a home planet with foliage i can use the colors of, like super crazy plant colors id imagine like orange and blue camo
or just what colors with camo do you think would look cool on Crons?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/04 01:39:30
Subject: do the Necrons have a home planet?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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Their homeworld, what little mention there has been of it, was devoid of vegetation due to the irradiation from their local star.
That said, the Necrontyr once ruled over the entire galaxy, so they could have been found on any number or style of planet, so camouflage may not have been out of the question. However, the style of warfare the Necrons of old practiced... that being massed, serried ranks of infantry forces marching forward into battle, crushing all who opposed them under foot and massed tesla cannon fire.... is not very conducive to the use of camouflage. With the exception of the Deathmark Assassins, Necrons are not an army that use camo (per their fluff) or tactics where camo would be of any particular use.
You can, of course, paint your army any way you like, but the Egyptian color scheme might be more in keeping with their fluff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/04 12:07:50
Subject: do the Necrons have a home planet?
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Necrons are one of those armies where you can do pretty much any colour scheme you want.
A more natural palette would be something different.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/04 14:53:28
Subject: do the Necrons have a home planet?
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Journeyman Inquisitor with Visions of the Warp
York/London(for weekends) oh for the glory of the british rail industry
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As already said, the Necron's original world was pretty much a barren hellhole. Although Necrons can have a very varied colour scheme, fluff wise camo is not something Necrons would use.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/04 16:08:07
Subject: do the Necrons have a home planet?
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Each dynasty has its own homeworld. Not all of them would have been barren hellholes. If you wish to use camo, I say go for it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/04 16:20:41
Subject: do the Necrons have a home planet?
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Maybe it coudl be a tombworld that was based on a jungle or heavily forsted planet, and as such they adapted to use ambush tactics rather than the usual "march 'till they're dead" appraoch.
Go for camo and use fast ambush-y units (Wraiths, Tomb Blades, VeilTeks, CCBs etc)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/04 16:21:05
Subject: Re:do the Necrons have a home planet?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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No they have tomb worlds though
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/04 16:23:35
Subject: do the Necrons have a home planet?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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The Necrons are noted for not adapting their tactics, except in very rare situations, to their new bodies.
Even before the biotransference, they were a tradition-bound society, that did not adapt to change quickly, or well. Hmm, rather like the relatively conservative Imperium in that sense, then.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/04 19:54:45
Subject: do the Necrons have a home planet?
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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They did not change much, however each and every dynasty was its own culture. One could easily have been jungle adapted or jungle based.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/04 22:19:14
Subject: do the Necrons have a home planet?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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If they were, the Codex doesn't really mention it, though it does go to great lengths to explain that, no matter where they were or who they were fighting, the Necrons considered their culture and style of warfare superior to anyone they met. History, at least at the time, seems to have proven them right.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/06 13:27:14
Subject: do the Necrons have a home planet?
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Journeyman Inquisitor with Visions of the Warp
York/London(for weekends) oh for the glory of the british rail industry
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Hunterindarkness wrote:Each dynasty has its own homeworld. Not all of them would have been barren hellholes. If you wish to use camo, I say go for it.
Each Dynasty has a planet from which it has its powerbase, they did not however origin from this world seeing as the Necron were originally an organicrace thst developed on a single planet, that planet would be their home world. A planet which would most likely either have been lost in the great war between them and the Old Ones, the war between them and the C'tan, or lost when the sunit revolved around finally died seeing as the originof the necrons is truelly ancient and even suns have a life span.
Most tombworlds are barren, it is completely unfluffy for a tomb world to exist on a verdent world, any knowledge of Necron fluff would show that they either pick dead worlds or make them dead worlds for use as tomb worlds. As already said camoflage goes against all Necron fluff. The OP can do what they like, but as we are discussing the fluff it is of no consequence what the OP does.
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Relictors: 1500pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/06 17:54:31
Subject: do the Necrons have a home planet?
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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And again before they became Necron they had thousand s of warring dynasties often at odds with each other. Much like the IoM kills worlds as they slowly change them to hive worlds the Ncrontyr most likely did the same thing. The process of hiding and burying a whole civilization is what most likely killed what ever life was upon that world and then not all worlds seem to have been lifeless as a few IoM worlds turned out to be slumbering tomb worlds.
As a whole I agree with you that Necron do not use it as canon, but as a whole necron do not paint their faces blue and gold either. But some do just this very thing, each dynasty has its own traditions, its own colors and set of icons. Why is it so hard to imagine somewhere among the billions of necron worlds and thousands of dynasties one would have used camo?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/07 08:39:34
Subject: do the Necrons have a home planet?
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Fixture of Dakka
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BluntmanDC wrote:Hunterindarkness wrote:Each dynasty has its own homeworld. Not all of them would have been barren hellholes. If you wish to use camo, I say go for it.
Each Dynasty has a planet from which it has its powerbase, they did not however origin from this world seeing as the Necron were originally an organicrace thst developed on a single planet, that planet would be their home world. A planet which would most likely either have been lost in the great war between them and the Old Ones, the war between them and the C'tan, or lost when the sunit revolved around finally died seeing as the originof the necrons is truelly ancient and even suns have a life span.
Most tombworlds are barren, it is completely unfluffy for a tomb world to exist on a verdent world, any knowledge of Necron fluff would show that they either pick dead worlds or make them dead worlds for use as tomb worlds. As already said camoflage goes against all Necron fluff. The OP can do what they like, but as we are discussing the fluff it is of no consequence what the OP does.
Plenty of Tomb Worlds had life on them. Kronus being the most prominent example. There was also one Necron tomb world that was attacked by Tyranids because it had life on it, and the Tyranids attacked the Necrons to get them away from their lunch. And mind you, Kronus was an oldcron Tomb World that served the Nightbringer, whose Necrons were the most killhappy out of them all. Pavonis was also a tomb world of sorts that had life on it, though it was really more the Nightbringer's tomb than anything else. And there was the world in the first Word Bearers book, though that was actually just a single Tomb Ship nestled deep in the oceans of the planet. The Necrons don't always settle on dead worlds or clear out all life to make them dead.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/07 09:50:10
Subject: do the Necrons have a home planet?
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Necrons do have a homeworld, they originated in the galactic north where the the Atun Dynasty is now based (pg 10 of codex). However its name has never been revealed and it is not mentioned further I believe. As it was such an awful place to live they soon spread to other planets and systems. Now, as has been said, each dynasty has its own core planet that acts as the seat of power.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/07 09:55:33
Subject: do the Necrons have a home planet?
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Terrifying Wraith
London, England, Holy Terra
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"Digital camo" probably would look good on 'Crons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/07 13:54:33
Subject: do the Necrons have a home planet?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Just some fluff to take into consideration. This isn't meant to discourage you, just to give you some additional fluff points to consider when coming up with your dynasties history:
Necrons have stringent 'rules of war', which are enforced by the praetorians. No sneak attacks, no going for leadership targets, no assassins, you must declare your forces in advance, no leaving the designated battlefield etc. etc. etc. They like their wars 'civilized', honorable, and game-like.
Of course, they only consider it 'war' if they consider their opponent to be intelligent life, a status they do not bestow on 99% of the rest of the universe.
Deathmarks, for example, are not allowed in 'war', but ARE allowed when exterminating vermin, e.g. the vast majority of battles they partake in.
So how do your camo 'crons fit into this? I strongly suspect camouflage does not fit within the bounds of 'honorable warfare' as allowed by the Necron's rules of war.
Again, I don't mean this as a criticism or implied limitation. I think it opens numerous interesting avenues of fluff.
Perhaps they are a mercenary faction, that specializes in 'exterminating vermin'. The may have special skills in fighting non-necron forces, and thus have taken full advantage of their freedom from the rules of war.
They could be Eldar hunters. Necrons have classified the Eldar as honorless and uncivilized, and thus undeserving of being treated as honored foes.
Or they could be an outcast dynasty, dishonored in the eyes of their brethren. There are a lot of directions you could go with this.
Finally, perhaps they are a special organization with an ancient mission from the Silent King. Tyranid hunters? Warp specialists?
Camo Necrons are rare for a reason, they cannot be a part of regular Necron society. While you can totally just ignore this piece of fluff and do your own thing, I think taking it into account and working with it could provide some very interesting flavor for your army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/07 15:17:29
Subject: do the Necrons have a home planet?
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Aspirant Tech-Adept
Aschknas, Sturmkrieg Sektor
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I think that way back, they had a home world, but it's pretty much irrelevant in the current time in the fluff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/09 16:54:35
Subject: Re:do the Necrons have a home planet?
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The Conquerer
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They probably forgot their original homeworld long ago.
Heck, with the billions and billions of years that have passed it may not exist anymore. It's star probably went Nova eons ago.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/09 19:50:21
Subject: do the Necrons have a home planet?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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Inquisitor Ehrenstein wrote:I think that way back, they had a home world, but it's pretty much irrelevant in the current time in the fluff.
Basically, yes. In Oldcron fluff, the homeworld was mentioned because this is where they discovered and began worshipping the C'Tan that was eating the local star, and their planet might as well have been named Planet Suck because it was a terrible place to live...
... but now they're seeded throughout the galaxy in their own little Tomb Worlds or collections of worlds for each Dynasty, so the actual, original homeworld of the Necrons is of much less importance than it was historically.
Heck, I decided to let my DH party visit what may have been the Necron homeworld (an irradiated, blasted wreck) before they had any inkling of an idea what Necrons were. Fortunately, it was asleep, and they wisely chose not to mess with anything.
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