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Warning this is vaguely creepy.

http://www.barackobama.com/life-of-julia

That's pathetic.

Screw the 22nd amendment!

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Check out the source for the website. This is in the HTML comments:
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...creeeeeepy.

edit: can't spoiler code tags.

Julia was slim... was that surgery she got at 23 a fething lap band?

Ahhh... a president for life!

I don't mind interesting campaign stuff (this is my sport, I WANT FIREWORKS YEA BABY). This is just...creepy on on many levels to me.

Frazzled wrote:I don't mind interesting campaign stuff (this is my sport, I WANT FIREWORKS YEA BABY). This is just...creepy on on many levels to me.

Julia can't do anything without government aid!

Amaya wrote:Julia can't do anything without government aid!

Well, looking at the slides it does appear Julia is both blind and dumb. Quite possibly deaf and unable to smell (or indeed breathe) as well, so it is no wonder she gets a lot of help from her Uncle Sam.

Frazzled wrote:I don't mind interesting campaign stuff (this is my sport, I WANT FIREWORKS YEA BABY). This is just...creepy on on many levels to me.

Why?


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I mean, women are not a minority in the US. It's pretty stupid to ignore their interests.

Cradle to grave reliance on Obama, er ok. but he's not a socialist right Weird graphics that creep me out, er ok. Weird thanks to Dear Leader everything is ok ignoring Julia, our econmic system, and the duties of those taxpayers. Its all thanks to Dear Leader, er Obama.

Look now Jr. can go to school thanks to Dear Leader..er Obama. Without Dear Leader, Jr. would be an uneducated pig (funny I remember paying taxe for that at the local level).

Look now there are balms fore the sick and aged thanks to Dear Leader er Obama. Romney wants you to get the plague.

Look now that she's under Dear Leader Julia has a baby...er wait that doesn't sound right ; )

Look under Dear Leader when Julia is old she gets Medicare (wait didn't that get voted in the 60s and didn't Obamacare cut $500Bn from Medicare...pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!)

Look under Dear Leader USA is BEST USA!

I think this is appropriate.

Oh great, more "Obama's a communist" nonsense.

Kilkrazy wrote:I mean, women are not a minority in the US. It's pretty stupid to ignore their interests.

As far as population goes, but politically speaking, yeah, we're still a minority.

Melissia wrote:Oh great, more "Obama's a communist" nonsense.

Kilkrazy wrote:I mean, women are not a minority in the US. It's pretty stupid to ignore their interests.

As far as population goes, but politically speaking, yeah, we're still a minority.

Probably because you have extreme right wing Mormon and Christian woman who are convinced that they should do whatever their husband tells them to do instead of thinking for themselves.

Frazzled wrote:Cradle to grave reliance on Obama, er ok. but he's not a socialist right Weird graphics that creep me out, er ok. Weird thanks to Dear Leader everything is ok ignoring Julia, our econmic system, and the duties of those taxpayers. Its all thanks to Dear Leader, er Obama.

Look now Jr. can go to school thanks to Dear Leader..er Obama. Without Dear Leader, Jr. would be an uneducated pig (funny I remember paying taxe for that at the local level).

Look now there are balms fore the sick and aged thanks to Dear Leader er Obama. Romney wants you to get the plague.

Look now that she's under Dear Leader Julia has a baby...er wait that doesn't sound right ; )

Look under Dear Leader when Julia is old she gets Medicare (wait didn't that get voted in the 60s and didn't Obamacare cut $500Bn from Medicare...pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!)

Look under Dear Leader USA is BEST USA!

Frazzled, a politician saying they're great and want to help people doesn't make them a communist dictator. Under your crazy logic, George Bush, Ronnie Reagan and George Washington are all communist dictators. All politicians talk about how great they are and how everyone is screwed without them.

I think it's more of an issue that the Life of Julia suggest that Julia can not succeed without Obama holding her hand and if you elect Romney she'll become a coke addicted adult film star.

Amaya wrote:I think it's more of an issue that the Life of Julia suggest that Julia can not succeed without Obama holding her hand and if you elect Romney she'll become a coke addicted adult film star.

If that's how you want to interpret it. All this seemed to indicated was that Julia would be a lot better off under Obama's policies than she would be under Romney's. And so far I'm only see a lot of name-calling rather than actual arguments to the contrary.

Indeed, it goes to show just how much her benefits would decrease under Romney's stated plans, not that she would be unable to make it. Her life would be much worse because her benefits would be cut by a huge amount.


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Hazardous Harry wrote:And so far I'm only see a lot of name-calling rather than actual arguments to the contrary.

They don't have any arguments to the contrary.

So, chart shows women at several stages of life or circumstance can benefit from Obama's initiatives and you are telling me Obama is trying to claim lifetime control of the country... oh and that fething tired, trite and strawman horsegak about communism again. Your democratic party isn't communist, it isn't even socialist, it wasn't under Clinton and it isn't under Obama.

The insinuations here are painfully threadbare and reek of desperation.

Melissia wrote:

Hazardous Harry wrote:And so far I'm only see a lot of name-calling rather than actual arguments to the contrary.

They don't have any arguments to the contrary.

That's usually the case. But usually they at least try to pretend at having one in the first place.

1. Does Head Start actually work? Can you even push the average 4-5 year old to learn significantly faster? The whole program is insane, are we seriously prepping children for Kindergarten?

2. Does Race to the Top work?

3. Helping students get through college is good the economy as individuals with a degree are typically more productive. If there isn't already, there should be minimum standards for receiving such benefits and failing classes should require the money to be payed back.

4. Surgery for what? Too vague. Not a fan of government health care.

5. Fair Pay Act. Yes, I support equal pay and if Romney doesn't then he's a prick. Depends on what was actually on the act though.

6. Iffy on this one, because I don't know what current rate of interest on student loans is and where it would be if doubled.

7. If women statistically have more medical problems then they should be charged more than men. Businesses should not be forced to supply birth control.

8. Who's paying for all this free health care?

9. Increased funding has not lead to improved performance by students.

10. Is this a government loan? If so, don't banks give out small business loans?

11. Yeah, Medicare so you can get a bunch of pills you don't need. I wonder how much money is wasted on the cholesterol scam.

12. If there is any money left in Social Security...

Trying to point out how women at various stages of life are better off under Obama policies than Romney policies seems like an obvious and mundane move to me. Maybe it's weird for some folks born in the cretaceous or the Bible belt to see a politician trying to appeal to women.

Amaya wrote:1. Does Head Start actually work? Can you even push the average 4-5 year old to learn significantly faster? The whole program is insane, are we seriously prepping children for Kindergarten?

You could have stopped right here if you were just trying to demonstrate that you don't know anything about the subject and aren't going to take the time to remedy that.

Yea head start works wonders. My daughter is in it, my son was in it, and they show HUGE improvements over the children around their ages that didnt join a headstart program. So yes.....yes it works.

Such a weird thread title...

it's a typical campaign add (with flashy graphics) that will, of course, change no one's mind here at Dakka. It validates the beliefs that those who already support Obama hold, and confirms the beliefs that those who oppose Obama hold as well.

The biggest issue I have is how are we going to PAY for all of this?

Sigh, I like Obama, but the mud-slinging about how voting Republican will cause Julie to have no life and pretty much grow up in a gutter eating rat-gizzard is just stupid. -1 point for Obama. Of course, he probably didn't actually have a hand in this campaign piece, which was probably done by one of his underlings-who deserves a serious smack across the face. Keep your pimp-rident hand strong, and all that jazz.

Where's the mud slinging, timetowaste? Nothing in the Julia stuff says "voting Republican will cause Julie to have no life and pretty much grow up in a gutter eating rat-gizzard ". Where are you getting that from?

They said what they would do to help her, and said Mitt would not do those things or would cut funding to them, allowing those programs to help fewer people. Kingcracker has just attested personally to the benefits of Head Start. If Mitt wants to cut funding for that, and fewer kids to benefit, is that not a relevant consideration to voters who are parents?

Instead we've got Fraz calling him a communist, but according to you the Dems are the ones slinging mud?

timetowaste85 wrote:Sigh, I like Obama, but the mud-slinging about how voting Republican will cause Julie to have no life and pretty much grow up in a gutter eating rat-gizzard is just stupid

... err, the site didnt' actually say that.

It said:

RE: the Head Start program

The Romney/Ryan budget could cut programs like Head Start by 20%, meaning the program would offer 200,000 fewer slots per year.

Certainly he isn't saying they're growing up in a gutter eating rat-gizzard here. That's just how the Republican trolls are interpreting it, because they don't want to stand up to face the truth about how the budget cuts effect Americans. It IS saying she'd have far less of a chance to benefit from this program. Which is true.



RE: public education

The Romney/Ryan budget would cut funding for public education to pay for tax cuts for millionaires.

Certainly he isn't saying they're growing up in a gutter eating rat-gizzard here. That's just how the Republican trolls are interpreting it, because they don't want to stand up to face the truth about how the budget cuts effect Americans. It IS saying that her public school would have less government funding. Which is true.



RE: federal financial aid

The American Opportunity Tax Credit would be allowed to expire, and Pell Grant funding would be slashed for 10 million students.

Certainly he isn't saying they're growing up in a gutter eating rat-gizzard here. That's just how the Republican trolls are interpreting it, because they don't want to stand up to face the truth about how the budget cuts effect Americans. It IS saying that she'd be less likely to get financial aid for college, and get less of it if she did. Which is true.



RE: health care

Health care reform would be repealed-- Romney says he'd "kill it dead".

Certainly he isn't saying they're growing up in a gutter eating rat-gizzard here. That's just how the Republican trolls are interpreting it, because they don't want to stand up to face the truth about how the budget cuts effect Americans. It IS saying that she'd not be covered by her parents' health insurance because of Romney's repeals, forcing her to have to pay for it some other way or just not have the surgery at all. Which is true.



RE: equal pay for women

Romney has refused to say whether he would have vetoed or signed the Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act.

Certainly he isn't saying they're growing up in a gutter eating rat-gizzard here. That's just how the Republican trolls are interpreting it, because they don't want to stand up to face the truth about how the budget cuts effect Americans. It IS saying that Romney is not taking a stance on allowing women to fight to have equal pay for equal work. Which is true.



RE: Student loan debt

Under the Romney/Ryan budget, interest rates on federal student loans would be allowed to double, affecting Julia and 7.4 million other students.

Certainly he isn't saying they're growing up in a gutter eating rat-gizzard here. That's just how the Republican trolls are interpreting it, because they don't want to stand up to face the truth about how the budget cuts effect Americans. It IS saying that Romney's plan would cause more financial hardship for any student that has to take a loan compared to Obama's plan. Which is true.



RE: Health care insurance.

Romney supports the Blunt Amendment—which would place Julia's health care decisions in the hands of her employer—and repealing health care reform so insurance companies could go back to charging women 50% more than men.

Certainly he isn't saying they're growing up in a gutter eating rat-gizzard here. That's just how the Republican trolls are interpreting it, because they don't want to stand up to face the truth about how the budget cuts effect Americans. It IS saying that Romney's plan would severely disadvantage her in trying to find affordable health care. Which is true.



RE: insurance reforms for maternal care

Under President Obama: Julia decides to have a child. Throughout her pregnancy, she benefits from maternal checkups, prenatal care, and free screenings under health care reform.

Under Mitt Romney: Health care reform would be repealed.

Certainly he isn't saying they're growing up in a gutter eating rat-gizzard here. That's just how the Republican trolls are interpreting it, because they don't want to stand up to face the truth about how the budget cuts effect Americans. It IS saying that Romney would slash health care, thus increasing the cost of pregnancy or making pregnancy itself riskier for the health of the mother depending on what she can afford. Which is true.



RE: federal funding for public schools.

The Romney/Ryan budget could force steep cuts in federal funding for schools in all 50 states.

Certainly he isn't saying they're growing up in a gutter eating rat-gizzard here. That's just how the Republican trolls are interpreting it, because they don't want to stand up to face the truth about how the budget cuts effect Americans. It IS saying that Romney's cuts would lower the amount that public schools receive for the government, which would have a negative effect on the school her child would go to. Which is true.



RE: small business administration and other small business assistance programs

The Romney/Ryan budget could cut programs like the Small Business Administration by 20%.

Certainly he isn't saying they're growing up in a gutter eating rat-gizzard here. That's just how the Republican trolls are interpreting it, because they don't want to stand up to face the truth about how the budget cuts effect Americans. It IS saying that if she decides to become an entrepreneur during Romney's administration, she'd have far less assistance in starting up her own company than under the Obama administration.. Which is true.



RE: medicare

Medicare could end as we know it, leaving Julia with nothing but a voucher to buy insurance coverage, which means $6,350 extra per year for a similar plan.

Certainly he isn't saying they're growing up in a gutter eating rat-gizzard here. That's just how the Republican trolls are interpreting it, because they don't want to stand up to face the truth about how the budget cuts effect Americans. It IS saying that Romney and the Republican party would like to end Medicare and replace it with vouchers to buy insurance coverage, which combined with the repeal to insurance reform would cost her on average $6000 per year just to get similar coverage to what medicare gives out now. Which is arguable perhaps, but I think it leans closer to the truth than not.



RE: social security

Julia's benefits could be cut by 40%.

Certainly he isn't saying they're growing up in a gutter eating rat-gizzard here. That's just how the Republican trolls are interpreting it, because they don't want to stand up to face the truth about how the budget cuts effect Americans. It IS saying that her social security payments could be cut nearly in half under the Romney plan, forcing her to save up more or work to a later time in life. Which is true.



And Romney's plan isn't even a properly balanced budget, for reference. One can argue that these benefits that Obama's plan aren't worth the cost, but arguing that he's wrong to point out that people will benefit from them is stupid and beneath the level of intellectual debate on this forum. Which is a rather low level to begin with...

What's this? The Democratic candidate supports reproductive rights, social programs & government assistance? AND They're using this as selling point to female voters!?!? Dear lord, this is most shocking news I've ever heard.

I mean gak. Next you're going to tell me the republicans are going to try and attract votes from businessmen by advocating for lower taxes and deregulation. I don't think my frail heart could take it.

Amaya wrote:I think it's more of an issue that the Life of Julia suggest that Julia can not succeed without Obama holding her hand and if you elect Romney she'll become a coke addicted adult film star.

No it doesn't, most of that is you adding information of your own.

The argument presented by the site is based on the notion that, under Obama, women will be better off than they are under Romney. That doesn't imply that women cannot succeed without Obama, or that Romney wants to systematically eliminate all opportunities for women such that they'll become drug addicted adult film stars.

Mannahnin wrote:Where's the mud slinging, timetowaste? Nothing in the Julia stuff says "voting Republican will cause Julie to have no life and pretty much grow up in a gutter eating rat-gizzard ". Where are you getting that from?

They said what they would do to help her, and said Mitt would not do those things or would cut funding to them, allowing those programs to help fewer people. Kingcracker has just attested personally to the benefits of Head Start. If Mitt wants to cut funding for that, and fewer kids to benefit, is that not a relevant consideration to voters who are parents?

Instead we've got Fraz calling him a communist, but according to you the Dems are the ones slinging mud?

Mannahnin wrote:Trying to point out how women at various stages of life are better off under Obama policies than Romney policies seems like an obvious and mundane move to me. Maybe it's weird for some folks born in the cretaceous or the Bible belt to see a politician trying to appeal to women.

Amaya wrote:1. Does Head Start actually work? Can you even push the average 4-5 year old to learn significantly faster? The whole program is insane, are we seriously prepping children for Kindergarten?

You could have stopped right here if you were just trying to demonstrate that you don't know anything about the subject and aren't going to take the time to remedy that.

Maybe you should follow your own rules. Where is the evidence other than KingCracker's claim (not that I doubt it) that Headstart actually works? If you can provide facts I will consider that it could be worthwhile. Otherwise, you're contributing anything by saying, "You're stupid."