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So I am new to Dakka Dakka. Hello. Anyway, I am also recently trying to get back into 40k, and I'd like to pick up where I left off. However I feel like I was dumb then, because I don't even remember what I was thinking of doing.

I play Orks, and I don't really think I can ever play another army, and honestly I never have. I've also always been pretty keen on playing them ranged, with a badmoons theme to them. I've never been great at making lists, which is why I come for help.

As it stands, I guess I can say what units I like. I like kommandos, especially with Snikrot. I'm in love with mega armor and battlewagons, deff dreads, and killa kans. For the life of me, I can't forge a damn list out of the above without taking a step back and thinking to myself "This is silly." By no means do I want a super competitive list built for tourneys. I just want a fun list that isn't total gak. I guess for forum's sake, I can post what I've been tinkering with for the past hour.

Ghazghkull (sneaks in with snikrot)

Old Zogwort (sits with the nobz and zzaps/frazzles with them)

* Kommandos
Boss Snikrot, 2x Burna, 9x Kommando

* Battlewagon
Armour Plates, 2x Big Shoota, Deff Rolla, Grot Riggers, Red Paint Job

* Flash Gitz (sits in the wagon, dakka's the daylights out of everything and deploys midfield)
3x Ammo Runts
* 9x Flash Git
9x Blastas, 9x More Dakka, 9x Shootier
* Painboy
Grot Orderly

Anyway, I've not had much input from any site I've posted on about my plight, and all the gamers I used to play with must have moved on to greater pastures. As the list stands, I've been having a hell of a time with getting a good core troop selection. I don't want to bog it all down with a bunch of foot sloggers, that's for sure. Which leaves me with trukk boyz, nobz, or MANz. Possibly deff dreads, if I decided to go with two meks? I don't know. At this point I've yet to even get to a point where I can start making a shopping list, let alone start playing...so any advice would be nice.


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Updated idea list.

HQ
Mega Armored Warboss
KFF Mek

Elites
4x Meganobz with wagon
4x meganobz with wagon
4x meganobz with wagon

Troops
4x meganobz with wagon
Deff dread with 2x CCW

Heavy
9x Kans with Rokkits

2k list. What do you think?

I'm sorry, but this list is too elite to be Orks. All they have to do is blow up the battlewagons and you are footslogging it across the battlefield in mega armor while they take you out in waves of gunfire.

Yeah. I noticed the rather annoying pitfall of an all mechanized army. Here is a second list I worked on with a buddy today. Meks form up around 1 dread, 1 kan squad, and 1 group of boyz and they pincer. Snikrot sits in reserves, and the other kommandos either infilitrate or sit in reserves as well. The warbuggies take up the flanks, harassing armor, and the flash gitz sit in the middle soaking up fire. I figure if they ignore the gitz, theyre in for some pain from them, and if they shoot the gitz, theyre ignoring the real threat. The other idea was to run the dreads in front of the gitz, not only to give the gitz even more survivability, but to scare the bajesus out of people going *holy crap theres two dreads charging straight at me*

HQ
Big Mek (Kustom force field)
Big Mek (Kustom force field)

Elites
10x Kommandos (2x Burnas)
Boss Snikrot
10x Kommandos (2x Burnas)
Nob (Power Klaw)

Troops
Deff Dread (+2x Dread CCW)
Deff Dread (+2x Dread CCW)
20x Shoota Boyz (2 Big Shootas)
Nob (power klaw, bosspole)
20x Shoota Boyz (2 Big Shootas)
Nob (power klaw, bosspole)

Fast Attack
Warbuggie (TL Rokkits)
Warbuggie (TL Rokkits)
Warbuggie (TL Rokkits)

Heavy Support
Flash Gitz (Shootier, Blastier, More Dakka, Cybork Bodies)
Painboy
3x Killa Kanz (Rokkits)
3x Killa Kanz (Rokkits)

If you are going snikrot, it would be good to take a warboss as he can also join Snikrot and come in from the opponents board edge. I prefer Lootas over flash gits, primarily due to the range.

Updated the list with some input from some other buddies. I'm not taking a warboss because I'd rather have the KFF. Infinitely more useful. And it'd make that kommando squad just that much more expensive. It's still only ten boyz and snikrot. Decided to keep the flash gitz because 1. no one uses them and they may surprise me and the enemy and 2. I've always loved em.

HQ
Big Mek (Kustom force field)
Big Mek (Kustom force field)

Elites
10x Kommandos (2x Burnas)
Boss Snikrot
8x Lootas

Troops
Deff Dread (+2x Dread CCW, Grot Riggers)
Deff Dread (+2x Dread CCW, Grot Riggers)
20x Shoota Boyz (2 Rokkits)
Nob (power klaw)
20x Shoota Boyz (2 Rokkits)
Nob (power klaw)

Fast Attack
Warbuggie (TL Rokkits)
Warbuggie (TL Rokkits)
Warbuggie (TL Rokkits)

Heavy Support
Flash Gitz (Shootier, Blastier, More Dakka, Cybork Bodies)
Painboy
3x Killa Kanz (Rokkits)
3x Killa Kanz (Rokkits)

Grrr...lost my 1st message. Nutshell:

Innovative and not cookie cutter. I like where you're going.....now to make it strong enough for you to enjoy some victories.

Run the buggies as a squadron so you can properly screen. Anyone shooting between them grants the target a 4+ cover save.

Flash Gitz are underused because they're overpriced and take up a heavy slot used for either kanz or battlewagons. I 'd add More Dakka and that's it. As nobz, S8+ hits will instakill them.

I was really trying to go with a badmoon feel to the army. Snikrot and his boys are mercenaries, and I'm working on converting them all. Would rokkits be more beneficial than burnas in that squad? I'm also running the gitz as the noble nobs (the real hq).

I'm probably going to keep the Gitz just because theyre damn fluffy and damn unpredictable. Plus I have a million ideas running through my head on how to convert them.

I'm a little amiable about the warbuggies as a squadron, as I'd think theyd be better as flankers? I mean in theory I have a Kan screen, a dread screen, and a KFF bubble. That armor 10 buggie will last one turn if I use it as a screen, I think.

HQ
Big Mek (Kustom force field)
Big Mek (Kustom force field)

Elites
10x Kommandos (2x Burnas) Never been a real big fan of the Kommandos. Snikrot makes them worth while. They just lack from numbers thats all. Points could be used for more lootas or what not.
Boss Snikrot
8x Lootas I honestly love lootas. They do wonders for me. I would like to see more. But my army's are built around the lootas too.

Troops
Deff Dread (+2x Dread CCW, Grot Riggers)
Deff Dread (+2x Dread CCW, Grot Riggers)
20x Shoota Boyz (2 Rokkits) Not a fan of rokkits in with the boys. I prefer BShootas
Nob (power klaw)
20x Shoota Boyz (2 Rokkits)
Nob (power klaw) Might want Boss poles on the Nob. Not so much needed with this many, but it couldn't hurt either.

Fast Attack
Warbuggie (TL Rokkits)
Warbuggie (TL Rokkits)
Warbuggie (TL Rokkits) I honestly don't mind the squads of one. What Brother is talking about is a viable though.

Heavy Support
Flash Gitz (Shootier, Blastier, More Dakka, Cybork Bodies) Cybork is not needed, as they should be getting the KFF save at least anyways. You really don't want them in assaults either. Blastier is a dangerous upgrade. Be better not to take it. IMHO
Painboy
3x Killa Kanz (Rokkits)
3x Killa Kanz (Rokkits)

I honestly love the list. Good luck!