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 BoomWolf wrote:
Unless "bravestorm" and "O'vesa" are the same guy, then "bravestorm" is NOT in a riptide suit. (tough iridium makes me happy, can anyone confirm iridium is still a choice for a custom commander in a farsight force?)

http://www.imgur.com/ydCTJ8U.png

And no, if you choose farsight you give up the core sig systems

 Hulksmash wrote:
@Target

I just downloaded the Epub. There is no change in wording from what we've seen so far.

Oh and this:

ALLIES

In addition to following the Allies Matrix for Codex: Tau Empire, Farsight Enclaves detachments and Codex: Tau Empire detachments may ally together as Battle Brothers

Neat. So you can take a Commander with CCN, MSS, and PEN, an Ethereal (compulsory choice to be used elsewhere), the IC Riptide, and a regular Riptide with at least 1 drone. They join up and you have rerolls to-hit, ignore cover, and a PEN rule on 2 Riptides and 3-4 shielded missile drones. The regular Riptide can take a target lock.(and can take one of the Farsight signature systems, if you really want one) so that you can split fire to some extent. The IC Riptide can stand in front and pass off wounds to the regular Riptide, and then to the Commander.


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Can't take a Farseer and some Windriders if you do this, though.

 davou wrote:

 BoomWolf wrote:
Unless "bravestorm" and "O'vesa" are the same guy, then "bravestorm" is NOT in a riptide suit. (tough iridium makes me happy, can anyone confirm iridium is still a choice for a custom commander in a farsight force?)

http://www.imgur.com/ydCTJ8U.png

And no, if you choose farsight you give up the core sig systems

As some as said, it seems like a copypaste error, and will probably be fixed very shortly. that entry makes no sense inside or outside of context.

Also, I was hoping the iridium shows up in the farsight systems as well, considering one of his guys is supposed to have it. (though plasma/flamer, what kind of setup is that?!)

That is what I dont like, their weapons are.........Odd

Do they have some sort of special rules that help make sense of them? (or make them noteworty in any way?)

GHAAA
I cant wait till freaking october to get my copy, but the android version is so crappy, and I don't have an I-havetoomuchmoney.

pantsonhead wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:
@Target

I just downloaded the Epub. There is no change in wording from what we've seen so far.

Oh and this:

ALLIES

In addition to following the Allies Matrix for Codex: Tau Empire, Farsight Enclaves detachments and Codex: Tau Empire detachments may ally together as Battle Brothers

Neat. So you can take a Commander with CCN, MSS, and PEN, an Ethereal (compulsory choice to be used elsewhere), the IC Riptide, and a regular Riptide with at least 1 drone. They join up and you have rerolls to-hit, ignore cover, and a PEN rule on 2 Riptides and 3-4 shielded missile drones. The regular Riptide can take a target lock.(and can take one of the Farsight signature systems, if you really want one) so that you can split fire to some extent. The IC Riptide can stand in front and pass off wounds to the regular Riptide, and then to the Commander.


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Can't take a Farseer and some Windriders if you do this, though.

The way the rule is worded, I dont think that this is possible either. It says that any unit that may usually select items from the signature systems list in the tau codex, may instead only select from the Farsight suppliment signature systems list. It seems to be the cost of taking this codex, no more super-Utility commanders bouncing around.

Unless you do allies shenanigans ofcourse.

Thats what I mean, even if you ally in tau, the wording says army rather than detachment. It precludes regular signature systems across the board

Except that "army" references only to the same codex, and a supplement is technically another codex, who is built as a modified tau codex.

Rules in one NEVER alter the rules in another, no matter how similar they are.
On the same vain, SM special characters does not influence units from other marine codcies with the same name.

 davou wrote:
Thats what I mean, even if you ally in tau, the wording says army rather than detachment. It precludes regular signature systems across the board

Good catch... The Imperial Guard players salute you

 BoomWolf wrote:
Except that "army" references only to the same codex, and a supplement is technically another codex, who is built as a modified tau codex.

As far as I can tell pg. 109 in the BRB says that an allied detachment is part of your army.

Hey Gents its available: http://www.blacklibrary.com/Home/Search-Results.html?filter_type=6&filter_Action=0&filter_name=SearchTerm&submit=GO&filter_value=Farsight

You can view with adobe digital edition on comp.

So Codex:Tau (3 Riptides) with Codex: Farsight allies (1 Riptide HQ, 1 Riptide Elite) = 5 Riptides?

The Gundam Wing 40K army is actually possible?

 Tomb King wrote:
Hey Gents its available: http://www.blacklibrary.com/Home/Search-Results.html?filter_type=6&filter_Action=0&filter_name=SearchTerm&submit=GO&filter_value=Farsight

You can view with adobe digital edition on comp.

Are you kidding, that's almost two whole squads of Imperial Guard Stormtroopers http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440173a&prodId=prod810031a&rootCatGameStyle=

You know how useful those Stormie's are.....

 Oaka wrote:
So Codex:Tau (3 Riptides) with Codex: Farsight allies (1 Riptide HQ, 1 Riptide Elite) = 5 Riptides?

The Gundam Wing 40K army is actually possible?

Great Tau'Va I hope so, that sounds hilarious!

With Farsight (assuming he's required) it runs you 1383. So you could still add an Etheral and 68 Kroot. This includes a Crisis suit team as required.

Alrighty then, i've gone and made a list for myself, at 1500 points i have 11 crisis suits, 22 shield drones, a riptide and 12 pathfinders.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/540990.page#5864160

Interesting that you now have to pay for the compulsory bonding ritual, but it's a tax worth paying for crisis suits as troops.

I want this lol. But I dont really want a ipad version, prefer book, even though i have a ipad.

 Hulksmash wrote:
With Farsight (assuming he's required) it runs you 1383. So you could still add an Etheral and 68 Kroot. This includes a Crisis suit team as required.

Still need the 3 Crisis Suits

You missed his last sentence.

Do we have clarification on some of the new rules? Namely Commander Bravestorm? Also has anyone made a list?

 Marthike wrote:
I want this lol. But I dont really want a ipad version, prefer book, even though i have a ipad.

The ipad version is actually quite nice, tap on a special rule/wargear and you get a little pop-up giving you the stats on what it does ingame, as well as showing all related special rules to it. Bookmarks give you easy access to the pages that matter too.

Then again, it just isn't quite the same as holding that big old lump of dead tree in your hands

Downloading my ipad version now

So...Anyone find out if farsight is required to take the Weirdo commanders?

 BoomWolf wrote:
Rules in one NEVER alter the rules in another, no matter how similar they are.
On the same vain, SM special characters does not influence units from other marine codcies with the same name.

I have wondered about this, Dynarth Lysander has never been errata'd from preventing passing his Bolter Mastery reroll rule to non-C:SM units like EVERY other SM Special character.

No chance of that happening in this situation is there?

 Sidstyler wrote:
Oh my god, Tau aren't complete garbage anymore! We need to ban them!

But when Imperial Guard, Space Wolves, and Grey Knights dominate an entire edition, that's just fine. It's just when a xenos army rises to the top that something needs to be done, like Necrons.

Yes, because no one complained about Space Wolves or Grey Knights during their heyday.

The Marine/Xenos distinction on this point only exists in your mind; the new Tau Codex hasn't recieved the same amount of hate as either GK or SW.

There were complaints, but I don't remember very many people explicitly stating they should be banned. This supplement is actually one of the first times I've seen someone suggest that a 40k codex or supplement should just be banned outright almost literally on the day of its release.

So no, I don't think it's completely in my mind. And maybe the new Tau codex hasn't generated the same amount of hate as either GK or SW, but seeing as how it also hasn't been out for as long as either of those books that doesn't really mean much.

People were actively fighting to house-rule Cleansing Flame. Besides, there's plenty of supplements that people instaban, one of the more common arguments being that there's too many/too god units in favour of the Imperium. So yeah, it's entirely in your mind.

"House-rule Cleansing Flame" does not equal "Ban Codex: Grey Knights!"

Actually, I don't even remember Cleansing Flame being that much of a problem. Warp Quake is the one that really caused issues because it basically made Daemons unplayable, being forced to deep strike in every game and all.

And the other "supplements" you're talking about are likely Forge World units and it's not the same thing.

Banning one supplement isn't the same as banning another supplement? Let's just agree to disagree.