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 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:


Which kidney are you planning on selling, left or right?

It'll be my neighbors. So both!

I lol'd

 B0B MaRlEy wrote:

 Red Viper wrote:


No confirmation on whether the Medusa can be taken as a hero or a rare choice on her own. Very curious about her.

The battle report has her taken as a rare choice for a bit less than a hundred points.

Thanks, very interesting. So she can be taken as a rare choice on her own, or with the rolling stairs?

 Red Viper wrote:

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:

 B0B MaRlEy wrote:

 Red Viper wrote:


No confirmation on whether the Medusa can be taken as a hero or a rare choice on her own. Very curious about her.

The battle report has her taken as a rare choice for a bit less than a hundred points.

Thanks, very interesting. So she can be taken as a rare choice on her own, or with the rolling stairs?

The batrep only shows her on her own, and the altar as a ride for a priestess

 B0B MaRlEy wrote:

The batrep only shows her on her own, and the altar as a ride for a priestess

Good to know, thanks again!

If even half those rumored rules are true I will be stoked!

The rumors from plastickrak (http://plastickrak.blogspot.co.nz/2013/09/dark-elves-rules-leaks.html) say that the army has Hatred.

But then it says Black Guard have Eternal Hatred.

Under their current army book, Eternal Hatred gives Dark Elves Hatred against everything except for High Elves, who they hate every round.

For those that have the WD, is it possible to tell if the army only has Hatred towards High Elves and Black Guard are the only unit that has Hatred towards everything (because of Eternal Hatred)?

Thanks for any answers.

I like the new cauldran a lot.

 sing your life wrote:
I like the new cauldran a lot.

It reminds me of Scar Face...

Please don't attach non wargaming images to Dakka.

Reds8n

 bu11etmagn3tt wrote:

 sing your life wrote:
I like the new cauldran a lot.

It reminds me of Scar Face...

I can already see the conversions

Huh...

Based on the descriptions and some of GW's recent plastics, I was expecting to be tempted to pick up the mantle of Naggarroth once again, even at GW's current prices.

But, really, not so much...

Not one of those kits is even marginally tempting to me now. Guess I'll have to see what they look like in person, but they don't look to me to be even remotely as nice as their 40K cousins are.

Very disappointed to be honest. I was really hoping for something better...

Valete,

JohnS

One thing that I disliked about the old warriors was their chainmail crinoline:




Sadly the new ones share this unrealistic feature:


Realistically, it would look like this on a male (non-Sufi) warrior:

 cygnnus wrote:
Guess I'll have to see what they look like in person, but they don't look to me to be even remotely as nice as their 40K cousins are.

Witches beat the living snot out of Wyches.

Kroothawk, you do realize that the render you keep linking is of an Executioner/Black Guard right?

 Kanluwen wrote:
Kroothawk, you do realize that the render you keep linking is of an Executioner/Black Guard right?

At low levels they look all very similar:


This is what a real Black Guard looks like:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:

I'm very interested in these. I am concerned about detail though, this picture of white resin makes the heads look 'soft' on detail.

That said, given they stand behind your front rank of well painted and detailed characters and command, and die in droves... how detailed do I need my rank and file now we're into horde-units of them...


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Also... ummmm, think I've found my hydra here...


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QTZij_pG3xI/UgYH0PB1vGI/AAAAAAAAC8A/o4PKE4A4PeA/s1600/_MG_0256-1.jpg

For rank units the quality and price of these minis are excellent!!!
I am really satisfied with them. Only point to be taken into account is that these miniatures are true and not heroic scale and look smaller next to GW minis, especially the newer ones like corsairs and apparently the ones from this last release.


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 His Master's Voice wrote:

Trasvi wrote:
But they do need to compete with Raging Heroes 'Blood Vestals' as well...

I find it strange, but I think GW versions are hands down better.

Personally I think exactly the opposite. Really good looking models but the Raging Heroes ones are still better IMO

 cygnnus wrote:
Huh...

Based on the descriptions and some of GW's recent plastics, I was expecting to be tempted to pick up the mantle of Naggarroth once again, even at GW's current prices.

But, really, not so much...

Not one of those kits is even marginally tempting to me now. Guess I'll have to see what they look like in person, but they don't look to me to be even remotely as nice as their 40K cousins are.

Very disappointed to be honest. I was really hoping for something better...

Valete,

JohnS

I agree with this. The 40K Radio guys (I think it was them) were practically drooling in their breathless descriptions of these new kits, but they're not really phenomenal. The Witch Elves are the best, IMO, and I like the Medusa lady, but HATE the sculpted-on blood. And on the whole, the super-ridiculous, over-the-top rolling platform is a little silly. Though it is in keeping with Fantasy and 40K's recent silly-creep.

I'm mulling getting a rolling cauldron of fabulous, but the pics, the sculpted blood and the price have me thinking I might just pass. Especially the price.

-C6

 corgan wrote:
Personally I think exactly the opposite. Really good looking models but the Raging Heroes ones are still better IMO

To each it's own. I find the GW Witches to have both better posing AND better proportions, which is mind boggling, considering it's GW female models we're talking about here.

Low res pictures caveat apply.

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 corgan wrote:
Personally I think exactly the opposite. Really good looking models but the Raging Heroes ones are still better IMO

To each it's own. I find the GW Witches to have both better posing AND better proportions, which is mind boggling, considering it's GW female models we're talking about here.

Low res pictures caveat apply.

I still like the Raging Heroes ones more, but I do agree that the GW ones are a vast improvement on GW's part. They actually look like women from what I can gather so far. I wish the Sisters of Averlorn looked more like women like these Witches.

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 corgan wrote:
Personally I think exactly the opposite. Really good looking models but the Raging Heroes ones are still better IMO

To each it's own. I find the GW Witches to have both better posing AND better proportions, which is mind boggling, considering it's GW female models we're talking about here.

Low res pictures caveat apply.

for me, it comes down to casting quality...
both RH and Warzone minis are poorly cast, in my experience...
they have both put me off from buying more of their minis...

with GW plastics, i know i am going to get perfect casts, more conversion potential, and loads of extra bits to play with...
say what you like about price and aesthetic, but GW does do great plastic stuff, quality-wise...

cheers
jah

 catharsix wrote:

 cygnnus wrote:
Huh...

Based on the descriptions and some of GW's recent plastics, I was expecting to be tempted to pick up the mantle of Naggarroth once again, even at GW's current prices.

But, really, not so much...

Not one of those kits is even marginally tempting to me now. Guess I'll have to see what they look like in person, but they don't look to me to be even remotely as nice as their 40K cousins are.

Very disappointed to be honest. I was really hoping for something better...

Valete,

JohnS

I agree with this. The 40K Radio guys (I think it was them) were practically drooling in their breathless descriptions of these new kits, but they're not really phenomenal. The Witch Elves are the best, IMO, and I like the Medusa lady, but HATE the sculpted-on blood. And on the whole, the super-ridiculous, over-the-top rolling platform is a little silly. Though it is in keeping with Fantasy and 40K's recent silly-creep.

I'm mulling getting a rolling cauldron of fabulous, but the pics, the sculpted blood and the price have me thinking I might just pass. Especially the price.

-C6

Agreed with all of this, as a long time dark elf player I was really hoping to be able to bulk out some of my units with these new releases but they are all pretty terrible with the exception of Shadowblade. The Ketchup-Bukkake Medusa needs all that ketchup filed off before I think of using it on the battlefield. If I do buy this I would certainly convert the piece to a stationary altar model as the rolling stairwell is terrible! It has some potential conversion opportunities, but I'd still rather buy a Carnosaur (I don't even collect Lizardmen!)

No sweat mount the altar on the carnosaur.

Bit of insomnia here, so while browsing saw they released the prices for Australia and New Zealand. Something is wrong in the world.....

Dark Elf army book: $US 49.50 $AU 83 $NZ 98
Dark Elves Battle magic: $US 6 $AU 8.5 $NZ 10
Shadowblade: $US 20 $AU 22 $NZ 26
Dreadspears: $US 35 $AU 45 $NZ 50
Witchelves: $US 60 $AU 70 $NZ 80
Hydra: $US 65 $AU 70 $NZ 85
Cauldron: $US 75 $AU 80 $NZ 95

Something is very wrong. GW lowered prices.....

 HoverBoy wrote:
No sweat mount the altar on the carnosaur.

Like!

DOUBLE LIKE!

Time to raid a bitz dealer for another Carnosaur body to make all this happen!

Wait, Witchelves are $60? There only looks like there is 10 of them in a box, what the crap over? What are they made out of that bumps their price so high? Hydra and dreadspears look to be decently priced at least if the spears have 10 guys in a box.

If these are the real prices then I think I might not be getting anything new besides a hydra and the book. Faaaar too pricy for ten guys/girls. The space marine release already turned me off with their outrageous prices, this is just another nail in the GW coffin.

£40??? For Witch Elves?

There's like ten in the box and they're charging £40???

Glad I don't play WFB, but it's a shame for those DE players.

If those rumours are true, the new Witch Elves will be $6 American or £1 cheaper than the current versions, and much better in quality.

Finally got around to looking at the new pictures. Glad to see my old metal spearmen and crossbows are back in style
I'll keep using my cheap Reaper Bones hydra too, thanks.

I'm more excited to see what some modelers are going to do with the war alter's Khaine statute and medusa. I sense some pretty good greater daemon/avatar conversions inc.

Three tidbits:
1.) The Cauldron includes a Hellebron mini, new style, old spreadeagle pose. The blurry one above the Medusa:

2.) Limited edition has white dust jacket with crouching Witch Elf on it, standard armybook cover has some dread lord pointing.
3.) Armybook is written from the perspective of the Dark Elves.

That would have to be twenty Witch Elves surely, not even GW are that crazy to charge £40 for ten. Although.. glances at the Centurions box.. maybe they are.

Regarding the RH not-Witch Elves, my only issue with this is scale, just slightly smaller than GW. I only have ten of them at the moment, and looking at the GW ones unless they are ten for £40 I cant see me getting any more of the RH ones. Probably going to have to use them as equivalent Druchii teens and blend them into the GW Witch Elf units.

I can confirm that it is indeed 10 models each for the Witch Elves and the Warriors with Bleaknames.