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1) What bandwagon is Scooty jumping on? I can't tell!

2) Romo SHOULD retire due to all of his injuries - if he wants some sort of 'life' after football, but I can totally see him going somewhere for one last shot...

3) Not sure Romo is 'Hall Worthy' even with one ring.

 Alpharius wrote:


3) Not sure Romo is 'Hall Worthy' even with one ring.

On Romo I think this is extremely true.... Yeah, he was apparently statistically good in "big games" but everyone who isn't a Dallas fan sees him as a choke artist.


On the Everett hit of Sproles, I think they got the call on the field correct, and I agree with Pereira, who the broadcast brought in during the injury time to explain what he saw. As far as fines/suspensions go, I don't think it's necessary because while it was certainly mistimed, it was still a "football play," but at the same time, he was involved in the long-snapper injury play and the league may be thinking he's too close to the edge, and fine him to maybe make him think a bit more.

 helgrenze wrote:
So. How's the bandwagon? Looks like it might be a bit uncomfortable with everyone jumping on.

What bandwagon am I jumping on?

Rumor out of Dallas is that Romo doesn't get a Hall invite without a ring.

That's conventional wisdom, but it's entirely possible to be a Hall of Famer without a ring... it's just really unlikely. There are 23 quarterbacks from the "modern era" in Canton, but only six of them don't have a ring. As good as Romo had been in his career, I don't think he'll make to the Hall of Fame.

It also suggests that he will retire after this season due to his back issues.

Yeah, he definitely should or else he'll likely ruin his body for good.

The Anti Eagles wagon.

Dorenbros' injury was the result of his wrist being stepped on.
Celek's injury was the result of an illegal hit. Yes, a flag was thrown.
Sproles' injury was the result of an even more illegal hit.
So, Yeah, IT was the opposing player's fault.
These were not fitness injuries like a groin pull.

 helgrenze wrote:
The Anti Eagles wagon.

That would require the Eagles to be relevant, right?

I don't think there's actually an "Anti-Eagles Wagon", unless that's what we're calling most of Reality now?

 helgrenze wrote:
The Anti Eagles wagon.

Basement dwelling teams don't get anti-bandwagons.

 thekingofkings wrote:

 BigWaaagh wrote:

 thekingofkings wrote:

DEZOAT wrote:
OMG!OMG!OMG! The freaking Detroit Lions are 8 and 4 4 more games to go. We shall see what happen. Bears ,Giants ,Cowboys and the Packer at home.

We are 9 -4 and the seahawks are about to smash our only real threat in the north, I am praying that Saint Stafford leads us to the promised land (or at least the NFC Title game) Giants, Cowboys, and Packers left! We have the talent to win out, but likely will go 1-2 but still win the north!

On behalf of the Bears and their ability to completely melt down in the final two minutes when they were threatening to win...completion/holding, completion/holding, 2 right-on-the-numbers dropped would've-been first down completions deep in Lions territory, game over...you're welcome.

Thank you Chicago!

Well, we did have to balance out that victory we somehow managed back in early October against the Lions. One good thing to come of this shudderrific Bears season is that we're looking like we've got a QB going forward. Barkley looks like a keeper...now if the receivers could hold on to the ball...

Rams fired Jeff Fischer.

After extending his contract... what last week?

oO

I think the extension was given before this year, but only announced recently?

So...maybe not as strange as it might first appear.

Plus, he hasn't really been head coach of a good team in while, has he?

Probably a good time for him to get a break.

 Alpharius wrote:
I think the extension was given before this year, but only announced recently?

So...maybe not as strange as it might first appear.

Plus, he hasn't really been head coach of a good team in while, has he?

Probably a good time for him to get a break.

Fischer isn't HC material imo.

It's his utter lack of interest on the offensive side of the ball. The man can coach a solid-to-mean defensive crew... but, he's totally lost on the offensive side of the game.

Jared Goff isn't a bad QB... he's got some skill. But, he's not one of those rare 'plug-in-play' players that you'd expect a #1 Draft pick to be. The system needed to be tailored around him, and Fischer didn't do that.

All you have to do, is look at Prescott... the 'Boys knew what they were doing there.

 whembly wrote:
Rams fired Jeff Fischer.

After extending his contract... what last week?

oO

They announced it last week, but AFAIK and have seen, the extension was done earlier this year/off-season.


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 helgrenze wrote:

Sproles' injury was the result of an even more illegal hit.

I'm guessing your outrage was working overdrive when it happened.... but they did talk about it during the game, and Fox's "referee expert" Mike Pereira did explain that it wasn't *that* dirty of a play... in his, and obviously the field officials' view, it was not an ejectionable offence, merely a football play that was poorly timed.


And really... how can a hit be "more illegal" than another hit? Seriously, there are only two sides of the rules... it's either holding, or its not holding. It's roughing the passer, or it's not. same thing with hits, and the Everett hit on Sproles was penalized because it was illegal.

 BigWaaagh wrote:

 thekingofkings wrote:

 BigWaaagh wrote:

 thekingofkings wrote:

DEZOAT wrote:
OMG!OMG!OMG! The freaking Detroit Lions are 8 and 4 4 more games to go. We shall see what happen. Bears ,Giants ,Cowboys and the Packer at home.

We are 9 -4 and the seahawks are about to smash our only real threat in the north, I am praying that Saint Stafford leads us to the promised land (or at least the NFC Title game) Giants, Cowboys, and Packers left! We have the talent to win out, but likely will go 1-2 but still win the north!

On behalf of the Bears and their ability to completely melt down in the final two minutes when they were threatening to win...completion/holding, completion/holding, 2 right-on-the-numbers dropped would've-been first down completions deep in Lions territory, game over...you're welcome.

Thank you Chicago!

Well, we did have to balance out that victory we somehow managed back in early October against the Lions. One good thing to come of this shudderrific Bears season is that we're looking like we've got a QB going forward. Barkley looks like a keeper...now if the receivers could hold on to the ball...

Well we were in tight competition for the bottom of the north there for a while

 whembly wrote:
Rams fired Jeff Fischer.

Yeah, well... you know what they say.

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 helgrenze wrote:

Sproles' injury was the result of an even more illegal hit.

I'm guessing your outrage was working overdrive when it happened.... but they did talk about it during the game, and Fox's "referee expert" Mike Pereira did explain that it wasn't *that* dirty of a play... in his, and obviously the field officials' view, it was not an ejectionable offence, merely a football play that was poorly timed.

Yep, it was no doubt a bad play, but I don't think any rational person can sit there and say that Everett was intentionally trying to injure Sproles. Hell, even Brandon Graham doesn't think it was a cheap shot. Like Pereira said, it was a football play. If Everett was there a second later and blew him up after he was "defenseless," it would have been a huge play. But he wasn't and they took a needless penalty, and since the Redskins aren't a garbage team (defense notwithstanding), they didn't let it get them down.

 whembly wrote:
Rams fired Jeff Fischer.

Aww, now how is he going to set the NFL record for most losses by a coach?

 Peregrine wrote:

 whembly wrote:
Rams fired Jeff Fischer.

Aww, now how is he going to set the NFL record for most losses by a coach?

Don't worry, I'm sure he'll get a D-coordinator job on a team who's HC will get suspended for a game, leaving him as acting-HC, and he'll lose the game he's filling in

America - what are you doing to poor old Britain?

The NFL London games have been announced for 2017, and the Cleveland Browns are heading to London

2017 is the year Brexit negotiations begin, and it will be a tough 2 years.

The last thing we need, with our economy tanking, is the biggest bunch of losers in the NFL coming over and passing on their bad luck!!!

Damn you America! Why? Why?

Leave your weird love/hate USA UK politics stuff out of our Football thread, please!

 Alpharius wrote:
Leave your weird love/hate USA UK politics stuff out of our Football thread, please!

I watch the occaiosnal NFL game, but I don't know a lot about the NFL's history but after reading the history of the Browns, bloody hell

They couldn't hit water if they fell out of a boat!

They've never been to the Super Bowl, and if they did get there, the team coach would probably break down.

The stadium must be built on a Native American burial ground or something

No disrespect to any Browns fans

The Browns are...not a good team right now.

They're not even really the 'real' "Browns" either!

Not making the right picks, some bad luck, bad coaches...

Well, here they are, I guess!

And yes, I don't suspect they're been much better at all next year.

At least the Vikings should be...somewhat OK?

Looking at all 4 games though?

Mostly stinkers there - sorry!

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
America - what are you doing to poor old Britain?

The NFL London games have been announced for 2017, and the Cleveland Browns are heading to London

2017 is the year Brexit negotiations begin, and it will be a tough 2 years.

The last thing we need, with our economy tanking, is the biggest bunch of losers in the NFL coming over and passing on their bad luck!!!

Damn you America! Why? Why?

Dont think of it as receiving a terrible football team, think of it as an audition... The NFL keeps talking about adding a team in London, and I think you guys could really turn the "Browns" around

Okay, enough frivolity with regards to this thread! This is serious news.


http://abcnews.go.com/Business/frito-lay-drops-doritos-super-bowl-tv-advertisements/story?id=44160808


Always some of the best spots. Say it ain't so!

It pains me to say this, but Alpharius may be right.

Because of the sell out crowds for London NFL, it looks like the NFL is sending any old rubbish our way, because they know people turn up regardless.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/dec/15/nfl-london-games-international-series-wembley-twickenham

I'll probably still watch them, because I usually slump out on a chair all day anyway on a Sunday, but damn it America, I want quality, not the Browns!

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

I'll probably still watch them, because I usually slump out on a chair all day anyway on a Sunday, but damn it America, I want quality, not the Browns!

I dont know what your ticket prices are like for the NFL games already played there... but if you want Tom Brady and "quality" American football, you're probably gonna have to pay something like, Rugby World Cup ticket prices

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:

I'll probably still watch them, because I usually slump out on a chair all day anyway on a Sunday, but damn it America, I want quality, not the Browns!

I dont know what your ticket prices are like for the NFL games already played there... but if you want Tom Brady and "quality" American football, you're probably gonna have to pay something like, Rugby World Cup ticket prices

The ticket prices are quite reasonable, but the big problem with NFL London is London!

London is not a city I enjoy visiting...

TV for me.

That's one color scheme that won't be on my Blood Bowl Orcs.

Emerald green. EMERALD, not neon. FFS.

 whembly wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I think the extension was given before this year, but only announced recently?

So...maybe not as strange as it might first appear.

Plus, he hasn't really been head coach of a good team in while, has he?

Probably a good time for him to get a break.

Fischer isn't HC material imo.

It's his utter lack of interest on the offensive side of the ball. The man can coach a solid-to-mean defensive crew... but, he's totally lost on the offensive side of the game.

Jared Goff isn't a bad QB... he's got some skill. But, he's not one of those rare 'plug-in-play' players that you'd expect a #1 Draft pick to be. The system needed to be tailored around him, and Fischer didn't do that.

All you have to do, is look at Prescott... the 'Boys knew what they were doing there.

To be fair - the cowboys have a great offensive line - they would make anyone look great. Dak has poise for sure - so I'm not gonna take that away from him but he really benefits from the team he plays on that has talent all over the dang place. #1 draft picks can be duds - more often than not they are. Just look at the Jacksonville jaguars. Gabbert and Bortles are terrible quarterbacks = both got a lot of hype in the draft.

Watching the Rams last night was like watching the Bears. So many dropped passes and crushing penalties combined with glimmers of inspiration.

 BigWaaagh wrote:
Watching the Rams last night was like watching the Bears. So many dropped passes and crushing penalties combined with glimmers of inspiration.

That's what St. Louis had to deal with for years...

LA isn't going to put up with that.

Charger would be Kronke's saving grace if they moved in with the Rams.


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EDIT:
Another reason why Richard Sherman is one of my favorite players (in game and as a person):
http://www.theplayerstribune.com/richard-sherman-seahawks-thursday-night-football/

 whembly wrote:
Another reason why Richard Sherman is one of my favorite players (in game and as a person):
http://www.theplayerstribune.com/richard-sherman-seahawks-thursday-night-football/

I too love this guy. His comments about Thursday Night Football and how the NFL views player safety during the presser after this week's game were fantastic.


Also unsurprisingly, Everett was fined $48K for laying the wood to Sproles and the hit on Celek last week ($24K for each). I agree that the fine may be justifiable on the Sproles hit, but not what happened with Celek. He's going to appeal both.