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I know this is a typo but, dammit, now I want an Aelf offshoot that lives in massive living city-mountains somewhere on Ghur, all of them in constant telepathic contact for so many generations that only a few now living are capable of normal speech.
"Three months? I'm going to go crazy …and I'm taking you with me!"
— Vala Mal Doran
Fenrir Kitsune wrote: Fabius - nice but a bit pointless if you already own him as identical.
It's not even remotely identical. The pose is the same, but the actual sculpt is a rather clear example of just how far things have progressed in the last 25 years. Even with being plastic, it has much crisper detail than the original model, and I love the more elegant look of the new chirurgen.
Elves - cow is weird and the units a bit too KKK looking.
It would be really great if we could all drop the KKK comparisons, to avoid any further silliness.
Fenrir Kitsune wrote: Fabius - nice but a bit pointless if you already own him as identical.
It's not even remotely identical. The pose is the same, but the actual sculpt is a rather clear example of just how far things have progressed in the last 25 years. Even with being plastic, it has much crisper detail than the original model, and I love the more elegant look of the new chirurgen.
He also comes with his little buddy...
Spoiler:
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
First off, 40,000 plus peak viewers. That surprised me especially as in some places (US West Coast, Australia) the time of the live stream was exactly prime time and likely depressed viewership in those areas. Considering the constraints GW is operating under at the moment to produce the live stream, kudos to them regardless.
As for the reveals
Storyforge - Some promise in the cuts shown, but also a lot to be worried about. Given level of quality seen and hints on the story, I am a little bit pessimistic that GW is hedging a bit and not really all in as they should be on this type of endeavor.
Aelves – I like it for the most part when GW doesn’t take themselves to seriously, but that video was almost too tongue in cheek and for a faction like the Aelves, it seemed a tad too buffoonish. The minis themselves on first glance look good, but in context seems out of place. Though I really do like the paint job on Alarith. Probably one of those lines that will take time to get use too much like Deepkin as both now are forcing us to reconsider our preconceived notions about "High" Aelves. That said, I don’t consider myself the target audience as I don’t have much interest in the faction other than their overall place in the IP and effect on gameplay.
Eomer – Don’t collect or play so initial reaction is “meh”. But, without trying to compare it to how Keith Urban looks in the movie, I really like the sculpt and the options.
Fabius Bile – Great, if uninspired, update to the model. More excited though about the hints on the PA book and the factions involved.
Warcry – First I like how they are using the setting to explore the different themes and aspects of Chaos devotees and am a fan of the game system. That said, the depictions of fire on the minis distracts and it seems the sculpts are too rough. May be it’s the paint jobs, but the details seem a mess. On first glance is a pass.
The Lion – Honestly I think it is the best Primarch model to date. Both head options look good. I don’t play 30K and haven’t collected any of the Primarch’s to date, but I think I get this one.
Primaris Lieutenant – We have seen before, and compared to other exclusive models, it’s okay. I am a fan of open poses and like this one. I am just glad that I have the option to buy him direct from GW. I know it is a self serving move by GW which obvously needs to recoup the investment in the design, mold and tooling costs. Wish they would do limted time only made to order windown on all their event exclusives as it would provide an option for people like me who really can't get to these events or visit the two retail locations where they are sometimes? available.
"Preach the gospel always, If necessary use words." ~ St. Francis of Assisi
If a mini reminds me of the person that lynched my great uncle then should that mini be cancelled?
GW didn't make the miniatures that way. Some people are advocating for a simple change to the miniatures to make them look better, but unfortunately don't see what they're making as a result.
That's not what they're making as a result, that's what you're seeing as a result, and even if they were making explicitly that (as GW have done before), the hypothetical feelings of a hypothetical person aren't a good enough reason to not do it, just like it's not a good enough reason to stop someone writing about it, or drawing it, or singing about it, or making a film about it. God how I hate censorship rationalised by social justice.
No one is advocating censorship or cancellation of anything.
Go ahead and make a max sized unit of hidden face pointy hat guys in white robes. Just don't be surprised when people react to them. across the table they are going to look like a unit of clansmen.
If that's what you want, go for it. Each time someone reacts you can explain to them the history of high elf helmet design and what you're really doing is making them old skool.
Drop that line of conversation meant drop it. Not dial it up further - ingtær.
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"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
Whomever sculpted new Fabius threw away all the character of the previous version.
High, er Cow Elves? That cow motif is nonsensical. Those helmets are U-G-L-Y, they ain't got no alibi! More of GW desperately grasping for something "distinct" for IP protection.
Eomer looks good, I bet his price tag won't be with those options.
Warcry dudes are Warcry dudes.
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I was genuinely surprised we did not see "Engine War" related announcements. There was a very heavy implication of there still being a few goodies for AdMech back at the LVO.
Part of the promo for the Adepticon seminar seemed to be around there being something for every fan - which, by extension, you could take to mean something for every game.
Of the games currently in production, that would mean we should see content for Necromunda, Blood Bowl, Blackstone Fortress, Adeptus Titanicus, Warhammer Underworlds and Aeronautica Imperialis.
Some of this, of course, could be Forge World material, especially for Necromunda (as I think we're too far ahead to see anything from the book after the Escher book).
At this point, I'm honestly not sure if we'll see any more for 40k or AOS, even though Engine War could do with additional previews, and the Book of Giants could do with an official announcement. In the case of Engine War, though, it is possible that the AdMech stuff is the only miniature support for that book.
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
I don't expect to see anything for necromunda, Aeronautica or titanicus next week as they got some reveals at Gama.
Possibly a bloodbowl team
Definitely more Lumineth
Possibly a sons of Behemat tease
Possibly something for killteam or Blackstone
Possibly 40k 9th or new primaries.
They may have decided to hold back some things in light of the production delays. They could end up as much as 3 months behind schedule before the lockdown ends.
BrookM wrote: Hopefully Catachans, though curious to see how the Primaris bikers will turn out.
I'd happy for any rework of any guard regiment.
To say that neither the catachans nor cadians have aged well is an understatement.
The primaris don't particuallry interest me beyond guns.
I'd be more interested into potential New Men from bile. Nothing aginst fabulous, but his creations allways were more interesting, which is good for a craftsman.
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GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units." Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?" Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?" GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!" Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.
Kanluwen wrote: I was genuinely surprised we did not see "Engine War" related announcements. There was a very heavy implication of there still being a few goodies for AdMech back at the LVO.
Eh are 7 new units and the biggest single faction PA release to date not enough?
On what I want to see for the next reveal - more Orks, obviously!
In seriousness I'd quite like a new edition announcement, 8th is becoming too convoluted now. I'd also like to see releases for factions other than Marines - Tyranids, Dark Eldar, Necrons have all done very poorly out of GW since 8th dropped. They're due some love.
If GW had a new edition on the cards for this summer I could see them shelving it till Christmas or even next year.
Edition changes are huge things and GW is already shutting down its factories for at least a month if not two months near enough. That's a huge backlog right there just in terms of producing what people currently want before you add all the months of new things to add.
Plus whilst the recovery might be fairly swift (we hope) there's still going to be a lag time as people get on top of debts, get jobs back and things get going again. That's before we consider the potential for hiccups along the way; plus the fact that different countries are at different stages. So the UK might recover but the US market might be locked down for months longer.
Time is not ripe for a new edition, but all the rules and material would keep for a 6 month to longer period.
Overread wrote: If GW had a new edition on the cards for this summer I could see them shelving it till Christmas or even next year.
Edition changes are huge things and GW is already shutting down its factories for at least a month if not two months near enough. That's a huge backlog right there just in terms of producing what people currently want before you add all the months of new things to add.
Plus whilst the recovery might be fairly swift (we hope) there's still going to be a lag time as people get on top of debts, get jobs back and things get going again. That's before we consider the potential for hiccups along the way; plus the fact that different countries are at different stages. So the UK might recover but the US market might be locked down for months longer.
Time is not ripe for a new edition, but all the rules and material would keep for a 6 month to longer period.
I can see it from the other side of the coin. People are starved for games and content with many people having no backlogs or ready for a new project. Coming out the gates swinging with a new edition might give everyone a chance to start over and really get momentum back up.
Kanluwen wrote: I was genuinely surprised we did not see "Engine War" related announcements. There was a very heavy implication of there still being a few goodies for AdMech back at the LVO.
Eh are 7 new units and the biggest single faction PA release to date not enough?
On what I want to see for the next reveal - more Orks, obviously!
In seriousness I'd quite like a new edition announcement, 8th is becoming too convoluted now. I'd also like to see releases for factions other than Marines - Tyranids, Dark Eldar, Necrons have all done very poorly out of GW since 8th dropped. They're due some love.
If I was GW and had oplans for a new edition, I'd proably cancel it or delay as long as possiable. if there is a 3 month delay you could literally have "ok here's a buncha PA drops. ohh and next week, 9th edition!"
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
Kanluwen wrote: I was genuinely surprised we did not see "Engine War" related announcements. There was a very heavy implication of there still being a few goodies for AdMech back at the LVO.
Eh are 7 new units and the biggest single faction PA release to date not enough?
On what I want to see for the next reveal - more Orks, obviously!
In seriousness I'd quite like a new edition announcement, 8th is becoming too convoluted now. I'd also like to see releases for factions other than Marines - Tyranids, Dark Eldar, Necrons have all done very poorly out of GW since 8th dropped. They're due some love.
If I was GW and had oplans for a new edition, I'd proably cancel it or delay as long as possiable. if there is a 3 month delay you could literally have "ok here's a buncha PA drops. ohh and next week, 9th edition!"
Then they should probably cancel their reveals, if there isn't anything to actually reveal.
Kanluwen wrote: I was genuinely surprised we did not see "Engine War" related announcements. There was a very heavy implication of there still being a few goodies for AdMech back at the LVO.
Eh are 7 new units and the biggest single faction PA release to date not enough?
On what I want to see for the next reveal - more Orks, obviously!
In seriousness I'd quite like a new edition announcement, 8th is becoming too convoluted now. I'd also like to see releases for factions other than Marines - Tyranids, Dark Eldar, Necrons have all done very poorly out of GW since 8th dropped. They're due some love.
If I was GW and had oplans for a new edition, I'd proably cancel it or delay as long as possiable. if there is a 3 month delay you could literally have "ok here's a buncha PA drops. ohh and next week, 9th edition!"
Then they should probably cancel their reveals, if there isn't anything to actually reveal.
there's plenty of reveal. just I imagine if 9th edition was planned for the summer, it's likely they're rescheduling. possiably for christmas, or early 2021. but I expect everything is getting pushed back, although they may make the PA BOOKS avalaible in digital format.
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
Kanluwen wrote: I was genuinely surprised we did not see "Engine War" related announcements. There was a very heavy implication of there still being a few goodies for AdMech back at the LVO.
Eh are 7 new units and the biggest single faction PA release to date not enough?
On what I want to see for the next reveal - more Orks, obviously!
In seriousness I'd quite like a new edition announcement, 8th is becoming too convoluted now. I'd also like to see releases for factions other than Marines - Tyranids, Dark Eldar, Necrons have all done very poorly out of GW since 8th dropped. They're due some love.
If I was GW and had oplans for a new edition, I'd proably cancel it or delay as long as possiable. if there is a 3 month delay you could literally have "ok here's a buncha PA drops. ohh and next week, 9th edition!"
Then they should probably cancel their reveals, if there isn't anything to actually reveal.
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
Kanluwen wrote: I was genuinely surprised we did not see "Engine War" related announcements. There was a very heavy implication of there still being a few goodies for AdMech back at the LVO.
Eh are 7 new units and the biggest single faction PA release to date not enough?
On what I want to see for the next reveal - more Orks, obviously!
In seriousness I'd quite like a new edition announcement, 8th is becoming too convoluted now. I'd also like to see releases for factions other than Marines - Tyranids, Dark Eldar, Necrons have all done very poorly out of GW since 8th dropped. They're due some love.
If I was GW and had oplans for a new edition, I'd proably cancel it or delay as long as possiable. if there is a 3 month delay you could literally have "ok here's a buncha PA drops. ohh and next week, 9th edition!"
Then they should probably cancel their reveals, if there isn't anything to actually reveal.
Or just move some stuff around. Put the new edition in longer term storage and push forward some new models that were going to come out anyway. Plus don't forget they've got a 1-2 month delay at least to catch up on anyway. So that's plenty of time and material to shift things around at the back-end of things.
We don't even know how the China factory issue is developing. GW's contacts over there could be running as normal or been shut down; or could be resource starved (factory open but no materials). etc... Plus shipping might have got complicated with a lot of airline services shutting down, putting more pressure on the boats.
There's also a lot that GW just might not know. With a situation that can take dramatic swings in a single day its likely very hard for them to plan things out and coordinate global releases and distribution potential.
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Heresy World Eaters/Emperors Children 
I like it for the most part when 
Honestly I think it is the best Primarch model to date. Both head options look good. I don’t play 30K and haven’t collected any of the Primarch’s to date, but I think I get this one.
The Lion looks great! 
