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hey everyone

A bit of a side project from my Ogre army, I'm painting these Chaos Space Marines in an old, brassy fashion.

Looking for advice on my first go at verdigris.

here it is:





thanks

It needs to be thicker(pigment wise, not consistency wise). It's a bit dark to me, but I may just be used to the exaggerated verdigris that GW has been slopping over damn near every model lately.

thanks for the comment!

I agree that I might have underdone it, but I was going for a muted kinda look. I will definitely work on the technique though.

If anyone's interested, the recipe is the following:

basecoat of Brassy brass
4 for 1 mix of Gnarls Green and Asurmen Blue
Thin it down

If i can recall, brass develops dark spots as it tarnishes. So if you want a weathered brass look I would sponge on dark spots. It develops green spots too, just check out a urinal fixture or something make sure it's not copper, they weather differently.

I personally use a 4:2:1 mixture of Livery Green:Electric Blue: Skull White, thinned with Magic Water (10:1 mix of Water:Flow Aid).

This gives you a more strong and vibrant patina, which you then can control by applying multiple thin washes.

I love the current look, specifically because it's a bit understated. While verdigris certainly can be bright and vivid, the usual turquoise wash represents an extreme (either of age or abuse). Copper goes through a subtle "greening" after it starts darkening, with the pale, bluish-green film only appearing after years of normal exposure*. What you have could definitely be achieved in real life with a partial polish of brass (which weathers similarly to pure copper, though the base metal is far more yellow) after roughly five years of normal weathering.

I say keep it as-is. It's perfectly defensible in terms of realism, it's different than the usual interpretation, and the darker appearance suits the menacing feel of the models (in my opinion, at least).

*Here's a handy timeline of verdigris formation on copper, under normal conditions:

oadie finds the most off-the-wall and incredibly useful info ever :p

I'd leave them as-is; I think they look great. my first thought when I saw the photos was "wow, awesome statue!". the fun part, though, will be making all the other details look just as weathered. I look forward to seeing the final results

oadie wrote:I love the current look, specifically because it's a bit understated. While verdigris certainly can be bright and vivid, the usual turquoise wash represents an extreme (either of age or abuse). Copper goes through a subtle "greening" after it starts darkening, with the pale, bluish-green film only appearing after years of normal exposure*. What you have could definitely be achieved in real life with a partial polish of brass (which weathers similarly to pure copper, though the base metal is far more yellow) after roughly five years of normal weathering.

I say keep it as-is. It's perfectly defensible in terms of realism, it's different than the usual interpretation, and the darker appearance suits the menacing feel of the models (in my opinion, at least).

*Here's a handy timeline of verdigris formation on copper, under normal conditions:

Completely agree. OP leave it as is.

Nice job.

I went for a more pronounced effect when I did this to my still:





I liked the contrast the torquoise color gives...

Haha that is a quite interesting info, oadie.

thanks for the replies guys, I really am grateful for the input. I just assembled my 30 CSMs so you will see much more of that soon.