CCB Sweep attacks hitting units locked in CC?

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**Praxiss**

This has been mentioend in an ongoing thread over in the Tactics formum btu i thought it might needs it's own thrad since it seems a bit "iffy".

Example:

A unit of necron warriors is locked in combat with some marines.

If a CCB moves over the combat, can the sweep attacks be made against the locked marines?

There is nothing in the codex or the FAQ saying you CAN'T (also nothgin saygni you can either), and the sweep attacks are not shooting attacks.

**Kharrak**

Off the top of my head, I can't think of any reason why not.

Stand to be corrected, though.

It's not a shooting attack, so it has no explicit restriction on targeting a unit locked into CC.,

**Praxiss**

True, but by the same token there is nothing that says i can't roll a 2+ and auto-win the game.

Nit-picking and stupid i know, but you get those kind of people sometimes.

**Basimpo**

Wait a second lol, CCB attacks cannot target CC peeps?

**Praxiss**

No, the question is, can they attack units that are already locked in CC.

Can't see a reason why they cant but i can see people argueing that tehre is nothing saying they CAN either.

If the general consensus is that they can then i am more than happy with that. I just want to be sure before i start smacking combat locked marines.

**Basimpo**

Actually i took a look at the rules again...
Its not a shooting attack
Its not a CC attack
Its carried out in the movement phase
It specifies that the 3 swings are carried out on an enemy unit you fly over
You can fly over assaults

**Praxiss**

Looks like sound logic to me, i'm convinced.

**skoffs**

until TFG packs a tanty, that is.

**Akroma06**

It works like this.
Do you have permission to make the attacks at all?
Yes

Is there any restriction on hitting a unit locked in CC?
No.

So you have permission to make the attack and nothing saying you can't do it to units locked. The result with a permisive ruleset is that you can make the attacks.

**nosferatu1001**

As above. You HAVE permission to make the attacks, now you need a restriction preventing you from attacking units locked in combat.

As there is no such restriction, in either the codex or the ruleboo, you can hit combat

**Rex-Nine**

Oooooh that is a deadly trick. On the same note, Lets say a CCB moves over a LS that moved flat out the turn before, does the LS get a cover save?

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Was reading another YMTC about moving flat out, the OP brought up this OTHER YMTC http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/433490.page
in it there is a CCB 5" away from a rhino. CCB moves 6" on the rhino then 5" back. guy said he made a sweeping attack, other players allowed it, rhino goes boom, lord hops off CCB and assaults the marines... cheese?

**nosferatu1001**

No. If you read the Sweep Attack rule, that question is clearly answered with no chance for ambiguity.

Demi cheese. They have clarified what it means for DE Reavers to move over (you draw a line between the start and end point, but ONLY if there is ambiguity), but not Necrons.

Disembarking and Assaulting having only moved <12" is of course perfectly fine.

**Praxiss**

Agreed. The ruling specifically says no cover against sweep attacks.