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Hello, I know I post a lot of lists, but I just can't seem to put a list together that I am happy with. I like what Vulkan does. So I tried to make another list. Help is really appreciated!


Space Marines 1500

HQ

Forgefather Vulkan He’stan 190

Librarian, Terminator Armor, Gate of Infinity, Might of the Ancients 125

Elites

Assault Terminators, 5x Thunder Hammer 200

Dreadnought, Multi-melta, Heavy Flamer, Drop Pod 150

Troops

10x Tactical Marines, Missile Launcher, Flamer, Razorback, Twin-Linked Lascannon 245

10x Tactical Marines, Missile Launcher, Flamer, Rhino 205

Fast Atttack

Land Speeder, Multi-Melta, Heavy Flamer 70

Land Speeder, Multi-Melta, Heavy Flamer 70

Heavy Support

Predator, Lascannons 120

Predator, Lascannons 120


(The Librarian does not have Null Zone because none of the people I play with have scary units with invul saves.)

I only occasionally play marines, but this looks a bit weak to me. Right off the bat I'd switch the tac marine's flamer for a melta.

I don't like predators. People can scream all they like, I'm happier with cheaper razorback spam. I'd swap both for vindicators. A single well placed demolisher shot can make or break the game.

I'm not all that crazy about deepstriking unless you come out shooting. There's a reason why I joke about just taking bases and painting bullseyes on them for my tyranids, because they have a lot of units that DS and basically sit for a round being shot at.

Your paying 190 points on 1 HQ, taking another is ill-advised. Lose the Librarian. Any point level higher than 1500 points, then pick the libby right back up.

Lose the Dreadnought too. 150 point suicide squad, with back up the wrong side of the board... will defo die pretty before help arrives.

Swap the Missile Launchers to MMs on the tactical squads, and a power weapon / power fist, points allowing.
Rhino's for each tactical squad.

dropping the libby and dreadnought will give you enough points for a LRR, get a MM on the top too.

Preds are good, as you get the much needed long range fire power Vulkan lists lack.

I run a very similar list and had good success

That makes sense. I nomally run plasmaback spam, so preds aren't necessary with all the lascannon around. Vindicators work well in my lists.

Ditch the heavy flamers on the speeders and replace with typoon missile launchers.
Those bad boys do some serious damage.

MM + Typhoon Missile Launchers dont work well together on a speeder. Has to get close to use MM, but can stay at range and use Missile launcher, it somewhat contradicts itself.

I like it, pretty close to my 1500 point Salamander list. Only changes i would do is get a multi-melta for the rhino squad so they can move up, preferably onto an objective mid-field and fire out the top-hatch and would get the Libby Avenger just to be fluffier

Thanx for all of your thoughts, i think that running a LR could be a bit risky but I kind of like it

I now came up with this:


Space Marines 1500

HQ

Forgefather Vulkan He’stan 190

Elites

Assault Terminators, 5x Thunder Hammer 200
Land Raider Crusader, Melta 260

Troops

10x Tactical Marines, Missile Launcher, Melta, Razorback, Twin-Linked Lascannon, DB 250

10x Tactical Marines, Multi-Melta, Melta, Rhino, DB 210

Fast Atttack

Land Speeder, Multi-Melta, Heavy Flamer 70

Land Speeder, Multi-Melta, Heavy Flamer 70

Heavy Support

Predator, Lascannons 120

Predator, Lascannons 120