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Black orc warboss with battle axe of the last Waaagh! and a shield 263 points

Level 4 great shamen with dispel scroll 230 points

orc bsb wilh glittering scales, enchanted shield, and +1 to hit weapon 165

20 orcs with shields, full command 175 points

20 orcs with shields, full command 175 points

20 orcs with shields, full command 175 points

20 black orcs, full command 275 points

20 black orcs, full command 275 points

20 black orcs, full command, +1 ld banner 290 points

mangler squig 65 points

mangler squig 65 points

giant with war paint 220 points

32 night goblins, with netters, musician, and banner 161

total 2498

ideas?

I don't think you need that many Black Orcs, but I DO think you need more chaff/redirectors /flank chargers like Wolf Riders and Boar boys. I also wonder if ...

you should try to make more room for war machines...

you could do withthout a BlOrc Warboss and have a vanilla one instead...

You should try to fit in some Goblin Shamen as well as the level 4....

I have the book, and am looking at OG for my second army, but wouldn't call myself an expert or anything....

Gorfang EadSplitta wrote:Black orc warboss with battle axe of the last Waaagh! and a shield 263 points

Overall, I'm not that fond of the Battleaxe of the Last Waaagh! Anything above S6 is, barring certain monsters, typically unnecessary. Furthermore, your Strength caps at 100 anyways, so in the first round 5-6 only gives you bonus attacks at the cost of WS (and 5-6 also means your character is only WS4).

If you want a large number of attacks, I'd just take a Savage Orc Warboss with the +3 Attacks weapon instead: You're stuck at S5(6) now, but you're also always WS6 (instead of WS4-6) and effectively A8 until you lose a round of combat. You lose S6-10 (S7-10) and a 4+ Armor Save, gain static A8 (versus A5-10), 6+ Ward, and 50pts (which, heck, can be used to upgrade to a static 4+ Ward and still have 5pts left).

Gorfang EadSplitta wrote:orc bsb wilh glittering scales, enchanted shield, and +1 to hit weapon 165

If making any character a B.Orc, I'd typically make it the BSB. You can afford to spend the extra points on them, and enjoy the slight durability increase WS6 provides.

Gorfang EadSplitta wrote:20 orcs with shields, full command 175 points

20 orcs with shields, full command 175 points

20 orcs with shields, full command 175 points

20 black orcs, full command 275 points

20 black orcs, full command 275 points

20 black orcs, full command, +1 ld banner 290 points

Combine some of these units, 20-big units in WHFB tend to drop rather quickly to magic, shooting, and / or combat. 30-40 Orc Boyz make a much more solid anvil, and two units of 30 Black Orcs much more effective hammers.

Gorfang EadSplitta wrote:32 night goblins, with netters, musician, and banner 161

total 2498

ideas?

Any chance of squeezing some Fanatics on the Goblins?

Your BSB is illegal, you have him with two magic armors other than that I agree the Axe is way too pricy for a guy with low Init so will probably be slain before he gets to swing. Fanatics are great and should be in there, combine some of those units to get bigger ones, out steadfasting your opponent is very important, lets you win games.

Gorfang EadSplitta wrote:Black orc warboss with battle axe of the last Waaagh! and a shield 263 points

20 orcs with shields, full command 175 points

20 orcs with shields, full command 175 points

20 orcs with shields, full command 175 points

giant with war paint 220 points
ideas?

The battle axe of the last waaagh is too pricey for what it does. If you want lots of black orcs and a combat monster, grimgor is your friend.

20 strong units of orcs are rather weak. You can take them at 10 strong with bows or naked with no command as redirectors but why not takes 20 strong goblins so things dont panic? If you want combat blocks 30 should be the minimum.

I believe you have to have savage orcs in your list to use warpaint. Even with warpaint giants are kind of silly. I run one, because he looks so cool(very old model), but he rarely does very well.

a list with a savage shamen can have giants with warpaint